On 15 April 2012 03:54, Ahmed Toulan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 3:21 AM, Ahmed Shams <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Please pick managers for the current FGs: >> >> * Art: >> I nominate: Anas Emad, Islam Hassan >> >> > I think you meant Islam Elwazery, am I right ? > yes, I meant Wazery(if he agrees), I was mehayyes :)
> * Development: >> >> > Didn't you say you have something for this FG ? > Yes, I have many things, but I can't focus on it now and I'm going to miss some action in the near future, although I think it's more like a mailinglist than a real fg. > * Marketing: >> I nominate: Jonathan (Anas can be here too, but I'm not sure of >> availability these days). >> > +1 Jonathan (if he agrees) > > Both are fine by me. > >> * Support Squad: >> I nominate: Toulan, Omar Mohsen >> >> > +1 for Omar > You're active with giving support on al channels, so +1 Toulan. * Women: >> I nominate: Samar Ali, Hala El-Wzery, Nadeen Spirit(do we have else ;)) >> > > Samar is the current admin in ubuntu-eg-women. We said the manager will > most probably be the first to join anyway unless the group members ask to > change him/her. > > How about all three ? Each one of them is in a different governorate. > I'm not sure of their availability. let's postpone this point for a while? > >> I think managers' mission would be: >> 1. Check proposed members for expertise/skills required OR history of >> activity(then accept or deny joining proposal according to that). >> > > This was the initial proposal, but should we start doing this now ? I mean > there is no material ready for this for any of the groups, > Toulan, it's us who are going to make these docs and us who are currently managing FGs, and it's not a big deal. But your point is valid, I'm trying to enhance now. > and I think we actually mentioned that joining would be open and the > person's activity will be monitored inside the group. > and we said making it widely open will stack inactive ppl inside. We have a problem that if we got some completely idle member inside an FG, what are we going to do with her/him? Yes, it's going to be embarrassing to ask her/him to leave, so, we need to put it clear that these FGs are not places to spin down and grow your laziness(though I feel lazy right now ;D) > > To remind you we mentioned that there will be some kind of material for > the new comer to read and s/he will pass through something like a test to > ensure that new comers have the least required knowledge for a certain FG. > But currently all the FG guides lack this information. > Yes, help me to do it then... > > >> 2. Monitor activity inside the fg and poke idle-with-task members. >> > > Do you guys have any idea on how to monitor support squad ? Especially > that most of their work is outside launchpad. > Man, frankly, I think monitoring FGs' members won't help a lot if you have an idle member(and even managers won't monitor anything, not constantly atleast). For support, if the manager is a supporter too, of course s/he will notice ppl in action and faded ones. We can escape this by having periodic assessment for FGs, what you guys think? > > 3. Accept or refuse tasks assigned to that FG(or one of it's members) >> by someone/team else from outside that fg. >> > > +1 > > >> >> I'm afraid that we might have been taken by the finally-released >> structure and we take things lightly. I have a constant fear that, if >> FGs turned into groups of lazy ppl, we would be have done absolutely >> nothing! also, being on hurry shouldn't move our eyes away from >> consistency. >> Besides that, I have a question; are those managers going to be >> *solely* designated by council or that choice should be somehow shared >> with the wider community or even left to it.(for example, Support >> Squad's manager can be chosen by collecting votes form folks on the fb >> group) >> >> So, I urge to define FG manager's job, how to choose them and pick >> those managers as soon as possible! > > > As I mentioned before (in this email) about ubuntu-eg-women we actually > said we shouldn't complicate stuff. If the community requires a change we > will gladly make the change. And it shouldn't be the council's > responsibility to choose the managers ( I mean after the initial choice). > Agreed ;) Actually, what I meant by urging picking managers is, to make the accepting/refusing of proposing FG members more consistent than now! Myself, I don't really care about managers :) -- Regards, Ahmed I'm planning to be completely offline from April 15th till June 1st, due to relocating. So sorry, if I couldn't reply during that period.
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