Hi Guys, I agree on all the above, Except that I will be the Ubuntu Eg Marketing FG Manager, Because I have a lot to do, I don't want to be in-charge of a fg and I can't follow up with the mailing list.
I am really sorry about that, But I am also thinking of deactivating my membership from the council because I am not doing what I have to do. Its bad timing, I am involved in a lot of activities and at the moment ubuntu egypt is one of my priorities but I can't handle all the work at the same time. Please accept my apology. -- Thanks & Regards, *Jonathan N. Hindi @JonathanHindi* On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Ahmed Shams <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 15 April 2012 03:54, Ahmed Toulan <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 3:21 AM, Ahmed Shams <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Please pick managers for the current FGs: >>> >>> * Art: >>> I nominate: Anas Emad, Islam Hassan >>> >>> >> I think you meant Islam Elwazery, am I right ? >> > yes, I meant Wazery(if he agrees), I was mehayyes :) > > >> * Development: >>> >>> >> Didn't you say you have something for this FG ? >> > Yes, I have many things, but I can't focus on it now and I'm going to miss > some action in the near future, although I think it's more like a > mailinglist than a real fg. > > >> * Marketing: >>> I nominate: Jonathan (Anas can be here too, but I'm not sure of >>> availability these days). >>> >> +1 Jonathan (if he agrees) > > >> >> Both are fine by me. >> >>> * Support Squad: >>> I nominate: Toulan, Omar Mohsen >>> >>> >> +1 for Omar >> > You're active with giving support on al channels, so +1 Toulan. > > * Women: >>> I nominate: Samar Ali, Hala El-Wzery, Nadeen Spirit(do we have else ;)) >>> >> >> Samar is the current admin in ubuntu-eg-women. We said the manager will >> most probably be the first to join anyway unless the group members ask to >> change him/her. >> > >> How about all three ? Each one of them is in a different governorate. >> > I'm not sure of their availability. let's postpone this point for a while? > > >> >>> I think managers' mission would be: >>> 1. Check proposed members for expertise/skills required OR history of >>> activity(then accept or deny joining proposal according to that). >>> >> >> This was the initial proposal, but should we start doing this now ? I >> mean there is no material ready for this for any of the groups, >> > Toulan, it's us who are going to make these docs and us who are currently > managing FGs, and it's not a big deal. But your point is valid, I'm trying > to enhance now. > > >> and I think we actually mentioned that joining would be open and the >> person's activity will be monitored inside the group. >> > and we said making it widely open will stack inactive ppl inside. We have > a problem that if we got some completely idle member inside an FG, what are > we going to do with her/him? Yes, it's going to be embarrassing to ask > her/him to leave, so, we need to put it clear that these FGs are not places > to spin down and grow your laziness(though I feel lazy right now ;D) > > >> >> To remind you we mentioned that there will be some kind of material for >> the new comer to read and s/he will pass through something like a test to >> ensure that new comers have the least required knowledge for a certain FG. >> But currently all the FG guides lack this information. >> > Yes, help me to do it then... > > >> >> >>> 2. Monitor activity inside the fg and poke idle-with-task members. >>> >> >> Do you guys have any idea on how to monitor support squad ? Especially >> that most of their work is outside launchpad. >> > Man, frankly, I think monitoring FGs' members won't help a lot if you have > an idle member(and even managers won't monitor anything, not constantly > atleast). For support, if the manager is a supporter too, of course s/he > will notice ppl in action and faded ones. We can escape this by having > periodic assessment for FGs, what you guys think? > > >> >> 3. Accept or refuse tasks assigned to that FG(or one of it's members) >>> by someone/team else from outside that fg. >>> >> >> +1 >> >> >>> >>> I'm afraid that we might have been taken by the finally-released >>> structure and we take things lightly. I have a constant fear that, if >>> FGs turned into groups of lazy ppl, we would be have done absolutely >>> nothing! also, being on hurry shouldn't move our eyes away from >>> consistency. >>> Besides that, I have a question; are those managers going to be >>> *solely* designated by council or that choice should be somehow shared >>> with the wider community or even left to it.(for example, Support >>> Squad's manager can be chosen by collecting votes form folks on the fb >>> group) >>> >>> So, I urge to define FG manager's job, how to choose them and pick >>> those managers as soon as possible! >> >> >> As I mentioned before (in this email) about ubuntu-eg-women we actually >> said we shouldn't complicate stuff. If the community requires a change we >> will gladly make the change. And it shouldn't be the council's >> responsibility to choose the managers ( I mean after the initial choice). >> > Agreed ;) > Actually, what I meant by urging picking managers is, to make the > accepting/refusing of proposing FG members more consistent than now! > Myself, I don't really care about managers :) > > > > -- > Regards, > Ahmed > > I'm planning to be completely offline > from April 15th till June 1st, due to relocating. > So sorry, if I couldn't reply during that period. > > > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-eg-council > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-eg-council > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >
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