> Many will gravitate towards this team for these types of things as not > much other help is close to Ubuntu and many will not want or feel the > need to be tracked from the distro they use over to Debian to report or > request things. This maybe an issue for users that may need to be looked > at.
I'd certainly not advocate for sending anyone involved with Ubuntu project to Debian as a requirement to get work done. Collaboration is of course encouraged, but Debian has a very different way of doing things that doesn't work for many people and we shouldn't be reliant on their packaging team to get stuff done here, now. Perhaps we should look at reviving the MOTU games team. Copyleft Games group? We've been forming an umbrella non-profit organization in the spirit of the Software Freedom Conservancy (http://conservancy.softwarefreedom.org/), who decided not to umbrella games projects last year. Among the people involved are Jon "maddog" Hall and several PySoy developers. Beyond the functions of the Conservancy, handling money and copyright assignment, we're looking to help projects develop pro-copyleft income models around their games, develop effective marketing campaigns, and eventually setup a commercial copyleft games "publisher" for getting shiny boxes containing CDs in retail stores. Marketing is a key facet. However, marketing comes with users and users > can have issues that we cannot ignore and bump off elsewhere. How we > deal with these things is a group decision. You're confusing marketing with customer service :-) Marketing is putting together attractive campaigns, organizing volunteers to do promotion, etc. This is not a topic of general interest to "users", which is why defining this team is needed. Is this a team for Ubuntu users who like to play games to join and get their frustrations resolved, or is this a team to put together promotional material and organize volunteers? This team will have different membership depending on the purpose, lack of purpose makes this a catch-all and lead to frustration from a low signal-to-noise ratio for anyone trying to accomplish a specific thing. I strongly suggest establishing a place, team, forum, etc for handling these things which involve packaging problems and clearly pointing users there for support so we can focus on marketing. I'm here to work on promotional campaigns. Do we have any members who have experience of hosting lan parties? Yes. I've organized many LAN parties in Ithaca, NY and we're hosting monthly free software LAN parties in New Hampshire, next month (May 1st) is TeeWorlds.
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