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I fail to see how locked-down pages cannot be considered to be static pages. If I'm not mistaken, the home page of ubuntu-in.org is a locked-down page, which means it effectively is a static page. Having a separate non-wiki section would be a complete waste of time. Regarding Pratul's suggestion of using Drupal, the problem (IMHO) of using CMS solutions like Drupal and Joomla is that it leads to a lot of administrative hassles. Suppose I create a page. Someone wants to make some modifications that I do not like. Can/Should that person be restricted? What sort of control do we exercise over content, and what sort of priviledges we give to a creator, a contributor, a member who has registered, etc. If we think carefully, Drupal (or any CMS) is (again IMHO) not the correct solution for a community site, where you encourage people to sign-up and contribute. CMS software are mainly for company or organisation websites, where you give out information about yourself/your company/your organisation, but you do not expect the community to be the primary contributors. Ubuntu-in lives due to the community contribution, which necessarily points to a wiki based solution. In fact some of the categorisation in the http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/Web2007 page is frankly amusing. FAQ is supposedly a static page, pray why? Is it something set in stone? Why should newbie users and developers sections be static? Shouldn't we be encouraging them to contribute back? How different will they be from Documentation and Tutorials that they merit a non-wiki infrastructure? Is the Team set in stone? Don't we have new people being added there? If I remeber correctly, when we started, all the sections had only two names. Only Gora was the third IRC ops and Barkha the third mailing list admin. Vivek Khurana wrote >Why not start writing a collaborative book on the ubuntu India >website ? Any takers ? Shouldn't our primary goal be to contribute more content to the Ubuntu-in site rather than write a book about the site itself? There is hardly any effort to create meaningful content on the wiki itself, why do we have to waste our energy pursuing other goals? Going through the statistics from Google Analytics, I find that of the 11000+ page hits we have on ubuntu-in.org every month, more than 30% goes to the page I created on SATA RAID way back when Dapper was released (around 4000). The sad fact, the bounce rate is 82%, which means that percentage of people visit just one page and leave, within about a minute and a half. Nan budh, you are talking about Newbie sections, go ahead, the wiki is there, create a section, contribute content. Can I consider you as the contact point for the creation and development of the Newbie section, please? Can't someone contribute articles on setting up a home server, a firewall box, a media center, etc. with Ubuntu? Even articles that deal with common system administration work that people need to do regularly? Why don't we see articles on properly enabling Indian language desktops (there are issues with input methods, especially SCIM, which is Ubuntu's default, and OpenOffice.org)? Why don't we see articles on programming? Articles that talk of setting up the perfect Python development box, with IDEs, nifty libraries, etc., using as much software from the Ubuntu repositories as possible? The perfect Java Web (and even Desktop) Development workbench? PHP? Ruby? A page on "10 cool things you can do with Bash, sed and awk"? Making your Ubuntu desktop look like MacOSX or Windows (yes, there are people who would read that)? How about a page on the games available in Ubuntu, howto organise a lanparty using Ubuntu and OpenArena? Creating Free maps for OpenArena/Nexuiz/Tremulous? There, I hope I have thrown up enough ideas for people to chew on and start working upon. Crack your knuckles guys and gals. For Events, can we use this plug-in: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Calendar_(Barrylb) ? Maybe there would be problems with the MediaWiki version, which I admit we website/server admins have been too lazy to upgrade. G0SUB, your inputs on this? Sorry for ranting, but I feel there is way too much talk and not enough work. Maybe that's symptomatic, seeing the experience of the FOSS.in organisers. I certainly feel proud when I see how The Team page has grown to include new people, and I see people being involved. I am proud of the people who have organised the Debian-Ubuntu Project day at FOSS.in, and will undoubtedly make it a success there. But somewhere, there is a slip between the cup and the lip. We have hardly been able to recruit people who would start contributing back to the community, in terms of code, documentation, etc. which does make me feel sad. Those who I have mentioned by name, please do not take this personally. Vivek and Pratul, you have been exceptional in making the forum see the light of the day. Nan budh, thanks for being the gadfly and pointing out that we have not had focused articles on newbies. But, this is an appeal to all of you there, please start stretching the current infrastructure to its limits. As the old-timers will testify, starting up something is not terribly difficult, but sustaining the enthusiasm and nurturing the creation to the point where it is self-sustaining, is certainly very difficult indeed. - -- Soumyadip Modak [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://soumyadip.freemind.in/blog -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://firegpg.tuxfamily.org iD8DBQFHFQZM3Fxjfllei8ARApN/AJ4uBpL5ifJm5qibvSQD1Ale5+oFRQCeNpp7 CcvUDIdTPhRdwgwxKUJJ1+4= =sNa1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in