2010/5/12 Gheyret T. Kenji <[email protected]> > Essalamueleykum Abdusalam ependi, > > Windows qa Uyghurche kunupka qoshulghili texi birer yilmu bolmidi. Uni > yollap bergen kishimu belkim yuqiriqi munazirilerni kormigen we yaki > munaziriler uningdin keyin bolghan. > > Meningche Windowsqa oxshash qilishning hechqandaq zoruriyiti yoq. > Asasliq tinish belgilirining(– ‹ ›) chushup qalghini(Windows da) bir chong > xataliq, buni biz bayqighan ikenmiz, yene qarap turup xataliq sadir qilsaq > bolmaydu. > shu uchla herp qoshulidu, esli bar bolghan nersiler ozgermeydu. yene kelip > <, >, _ bular Uyghur tilidiki tinish belgiliri emes. > shunga mening pikirim mushu 3 herpni choqum qoshush. eger bular qoshulmisa, > ishletkuchiler bularni kirguzushte qiyinilidu.... > > Shunga meningche bularning qoshushning zoruriyiti bar dep qaraymen. > Keyin yene yamaq selish toghra kelse shu chaghda salsaq bolidu. > > Kunupkini(hazirqi mesile tinish belgiliridila bar) birlikke kelturush ishi > 20 yildin beri hel qilinmay kelgen ish, chunki hazirqi kunupka 85-yilila > bekitilgen, shu chagdiki xataliq tinish belgiliri her xil orunlashturulghan. > emdi yene qachan birlikke kelidu, hech kim bilmeydu. > > > Salam bilen > Gheyret T.Kenji > 2010/05/12 > > 2010/5/12 Abdusalam Abdurahman <[email protected]> > >> Aldi bilen 2-elxettiki so'alingizgha jawab berey. 1-sige heliraq bosh >> waqit chiqqanda jawab berey. >> >> Bu so'alning otturigha chiqidighanliqini burnla bilettim. [?] Toghra, u >> halet kunupkisida *China* dep chiqidu (bumu manga ghelite korun'gen). Bu >> menigche ashu halet kozniki yaki programmisining ozining xataliqi yaki >> bolmisa shundaq layihilen'gen (bu ehtimalliqi towenrek). Meyli u yerde >> qandaq korunsun, *XKB ning kunupka taxtiliri choqum bir doletke tewe >> bolushi shert* iken (bu muqim qa'ide bolghachqa, emel qilmisaq >> bolmaydiken; bu toghriliq Tibetchini qoshqan adashmu xkb-config ning ezaliri >> bilen taza talash-tartish qiliptiken: >> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12088). Shunga bu mesile >> nowette mushu petiche turup turidu. Emeliyett *English* ke >> almashtursingizmu *USA* dep chiqidu. >> >> >> Azraq waqtim bar iken, emdi 1-elxettiki so'alliringizgha jawab beriwetey. >> Men mundaq oylighan: >> >> Windows 7 diki Uyghurche kunupka orunlashturushi meyli qandaqla bolmisun, >> u bir emeliyettiki olchem. Bu deginim, bu kunupka taxtisining wezni Uyghur >> tor betliridiki herqandaq kunupka taxtiliri (meyli u qanche toghra yaki >> aqiliane layihilen'gen bolsun) din eghir, teximu qa'il qilarliq kuchke ige. >> Yeni, biz xeqke kunupka taxtimizni ewetkende uni mushuning olchemlik >> ikenlige qa'il qildurushimiz kerek, gerche bu olchem sel kona bolsimu. >> Toghra, bu kunupka taxtisida heqiqeten mesililer kop, bunisi manga besh >> qoldek ayan, chunki menmu eyni waqitta shu munazirilerde bar. Lekin, >> bizning u maniziridiki qararlirimiz, layihilirimiz meyli qanche aqilane, >> mukemmel bolsun, u beribir hechqandaq olchem orgini yaki nopuzluq >> organlarning testiqidin otup, resmiy hojjet supitide elan qilinmidi. >> Shunga, men bu yerde yenila Windows 7 diki "olchemlik" kunupka taxtisini >> (waqtinche) ishlitip turushni toghra taptim. Bundaq bolghanda, xkb-config >> ning ezalirinimu qa'il qildurghili bolidu, shundaqla Linux bilen Windows 7 >> arisidiki kunupka taxta birdeklini saqlighili bolidu. Emdi mawu yengi >> layihe chiqqanda, bu kunupka taxtisigha yamaq salsaqmu yaki yengidin >> olchemlik kunupka taxtisi qoshsaqmu bolidu (shu chaghda sozlisekmu gepimiz >> chong bolidu, chunki bizning yollighinimiz hemmisi qanunluq, resmiy kunupka >> taxtiliri, hergiz ozimizning oydurup chiqiriwalghan oyunchuqi emes). Bunisi >> Windows diki kunupka taxtisigha ozgertish qilishqa qarighanda kop asanraq, >> shundaq bolsimu choqum qa'idisi bilen, ilmiy ish qilishimiz kerek (XKB ning >> Tibetchisimu del Windows Vista diki kunupka taxtisini kochurup ishletken). >> Alim Ehed ependimning koz qarishimu mushundaq bolghan. >> >> Rehmet. >> >> 2010/5/12 Gheyret T. Kenji <[email protected]> >> >>> Yene bir Ekran korunushi, >>> >>> Bu qetim Ekranni quluplap(Screen Lock) qilghanda chiqqan koznekni >>> ewettim. bu yerdimu China dep korundi. >>> >>> Salam Bilen >>> Gheyret T.Kenji >>> 2010/05/12 >>> >>> >>> 2010/5/12 Gheyret T. Kenji <[email protected]> >>> >>>> Essalamuleykum, >>>> >>>> Uyghurchini ayrim orunlashturghili bolmasmu? >>>> chunki men kirguzguchni orunlashturup, Uyghurche kirguzush halitige >>>> otsem, kunupka haliti china dep chiqti, Uyghurche dep korunmidi. >>>> ekran korunushi(screenshot) ni ewettim. >>>> >>>> Salam Bilen >>>> Gheyret T.Kenji >>>> 2010/05/12 >>>> >>>> >>>> 2010/5/12 Gheyret T. Kenji <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> Essalamueleykum Abdusalam Abdurahman ependi, >>>>> >>>>> Japaliq emgikingiz uchun sizge kop teshekkur. >>>>> Bir qanche mesilini otturgha qoymaqchimen: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Otkende Bilik we UKIJ tor betliride siziq heqqide pikirler bolup, >>>>> _(pes siziq ) kunupkisigha –(siziq 0x2013) orunlashturush qarar >>>>> qilin'ghan >>>>> idi. >>>>> >>>>> 2. uningdin bashqa "<"(kichik) bilen ">"(chong) ikki kunupkigha, >>>>> Uyghur tilidiki tinish belgilerdin yalang tirnaq "‹"(0x2039) we >>>>> "›"(0x203a) >>>>> ni orunlashturush heqqidimu pikirler bolghan. >>>>> mening his qilishimche , kirguzguch yasighuchilar qosh tirnaqni >>>>> "«"(0x00ab),"»"(0x00BB) ni bastaxtigha orunlashturushni unutmisimu, yalang >>>>> tirnaqni orunlashturushni untup qalidighan ehwal jiq iken. >>>>> bu yalang tirnaq heqqidimu bilikte pikirler bolghan idi, shu boyiche >>>>> aptor(Muhemmed ependi) buni tuzetken idi, hazirmu bilik we bashqa muhemmed >>>>> ependi ishligen kirguzguchni ishlitiwatqan betlerde, buni ongayla sinap >>>>> korushke bolidu. >>>>> >>>>> Menmu UyghurEdit mushundaq orunlashturghan idim. >>>>> meningche mushu uch herpni qoshuwetsingiz, hazirghiche kop >>>>> ishlitidighan kirguzguchlerdiki tinish belgiliri oxshash bolghan bolidu. >>>>> bumu keyinki olchemleshturushke paydiliq dep qaraymen. >>>>> >>>>> Salam Bilen >>>>> Gheyret T.Kenji >>>>> 2010/05/12 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2010/5/12 Abdusalam Abdurahman <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>>> Yaxshimuzler kopchilik, >>>>>> >>>>>> Otkende men Ubuntu diki Uyghurche kunupka taxtisi toghrisida koz >>>>>> qarishimni otturigha qoyghan. Shu qetimqi munaziridin keyin, Ubuntu >>>>>> 10.04 >>>>>> da qoshup tarqitilghan Uyghurche kunupka taxtisini esta'idil bir >>>>>> tekshurup, >>>>>> bayqighan mesililerni tuzitip axirida unining XKB nusxisini putturup >>>>>> tugettim. Bugun manu shu kunupka tastisini sizlerning tekshurup >>>>>> berishinglargha sunmaqchi. Bolsa hemme ezalar oz sistemisida bir sinap >>>>>> beqip, mesililer bolsa manga yetkuzse, tuzetkendin keyin yaki mesililer >>>>>> bayqalmisa, men xkb-config proyektining ezaliri bilen alaqiliship bu >>>>>> kunupka >>>>>> taxtini ular arqiliq Xorg ning XKB bolikige qoshuwetishni oylishiwatimen. >>>>>> Bundaq bolghanda, Xorg ni asas qilghan herqandaq *nix sistemilirida, >>>>>> hechqandaq 3-chi terep yumshaq detalliri (mesilen, SCIM, Fcitx, IBus >>>>>> degendekler) gha tayanmayla, xuddiy US kunupka taxtisini nahayiti asanla >>>>>> qoshup ishletkendek, biwasite Uyghurche kunupka taxtisini qoshup >>>>>> ishletkili >>>>>> bolidu. >>>>>> >>>>>> Emdi bu kunupka taxtisi toghrisa bir omumiy chushenche beriwetey: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Bu kunupka taxtisi Muhemmed Abdulla ependim teminligen >>>>>> Uyghurche kunupka taxta asasida ozgertip tuzuldi (munasiwetlik >>>>>> materiyallar >>>>>> Yulghun tor bekitiidin elindi). >>>>>> 2. Yengi elan qilinmaqchi bolghan olchemlik Uyghurche kunupka >>>>>> taxtisi qisqa waqit ichide chiqish entimalliqi yoq bolghachqa (Alim >>>>>> Ehed >>>>>> ependimning koz qarisihi), bu kunupka taxtisidiki Uyghurche >>>>>> herplerning >>>>>> orunlashturulishi Windows 7 diki Uyghurche kunupka taxtisiningki bilen >>>>>> oxshash qilip tuzuldi. Emma, XKB ning qa'idisi sewebi, L >>>>>> kunupkisining >>>>>> Shift halettiki qimmitige Uyghurche qoshma herp LA orunlashturulmidi. >>>>>> 3. Bu kunupka taxtisi Ubuntu 10.04 neshride sinaldi. Bu neshride >>>>>> ozgertishke (yaki yamaq selishqa tegishlik) hojjetler tertipi bilen: >>>>>> >>>>>> /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/cn >>>>>> >>>>>> /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base.xml >>>>>> /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base.lst >>>>>> >>>>>> /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.xml >>>>>> /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.lst >>>>>> >>>>>> Sinaq qilmaqchi bolghan ezalar qoshumchidiki prislan'ghan 5 hojjet >>>>>> arqiliq sistemingizdiki mushu 5 hojjetni qaplap kochuruwetsingizla >>>>>> bolidu ( >>>>>> *sudo* buyruqi bilen meshghulat qilishqa diqqet qiling). >>>>>> Ubuntuning kona neshrliri (<=8.10?) "*base*" hojjetlerni >>>>>> ishletse, bezi neshrliri (>=9.04?) "*evdev*" hojjetlerni >>>>>> ishlitidiken, shunga hemmisini ozgertip qoydum. >>>>>> 4. Yuqiridiki qedem orunlinip bolghandin keyin, ustel yuzide >>>>>> towendiki basquchlar arqiliq bu Uyghurche taxtisini qozghitimiz: >>>>>> 1)* System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layouts *ni eching; >>>>>> 2) *Add* ni besing; >>>>>> 3) *By Country *betige kiring (*By Language* betidin qoshsingizmu >>>>>> bolidu); >>>>>> 4) *Country* tizimlik qutisidin *China* ni tallang; >>>>>> 5) *Variants* tizimlik qutisidin *China Uyghur* ni tallang; >>>>>> 6) *Add* ni besip jezimleshturung; >>>>>> 7) Keyinki koznekte, *Close* ni besip meshghuletni >>>>>> axirilashturung. >>>>>> 8) Emdi ustel yuzidiki Panel de kunupka taxtisi almashturush >>>>>> sinbelgisi korunidu. Ashu sin belgisini chekish yaki birikme >>>>>> kunupkilar >>>>>> arqiliq kunupka taxtingizni almashtursingiz bolidu. >>>>>> 5. Sinaq jeryanida herqandaq mesile bolsa, mushu elxet tizimliki >>>>>> yaki manage biwasite elxet yollang. >>>>>> >>>>>> Rehmet. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Abdusalam Abdurahman >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-ug >>>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-ug >>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Gheyret T. Kenji >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Gheyret T. Kenji >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Gheyret T. Kenji >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Abdusalam Abdurahman >> >> > > > -- > Gheyret T. Kenji >
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