Hm... Bu mesile yene otturigha chiqip taqishidighan boldi. Emdi qandaq qilarimni bilelmeywatimen. Bashqilarning pikirinimu anglap baqayli emise. Yaki bolmisa siz yaki men Yasin Imin ependi bilen bir alaqiliship baqsaq qandaq bolar?
2010/5/12 Gheyret T. Kenji <[email protected]> > > > 2010/5/12 Gheyret T. Kenji <[email protected]> > >> Essalamueleykum Abdusalam ependi, >> >> Windows qa Uyghurche kunupka qoshulghili texi birer yilmu bolmidi. Uni >> yollap bergen kishimu belkim yuqiriqi munazirilerni kormigen we yaki >> munaziriler uningdin keyin bolghan. >> >> Meningche Windowsqa oxshash qilishning hechqandaq zoruriyiti yoq. >> Asasliq tinish belgilirining(– ‹ ›) chushup qalghini(Windows da) bir chong >> xataliq, buni biz bayqighan ikenmiz, yene qarap turup xataliq sadir qilsaq >> bolmaydu. >> shu uchla herp qoshulidu, esli bar bolghan nersiler ozgermeydu. yene kelip >> <, >, _ bular Uyghur tilidiki tinish belgiliri emes. >> shunga mening pikirim mushu 3 herpni choqum qoshush. eger bular >> qoshulmisa, ishletkuchiler bularni kirguzushte qiyinilidu.... >> >> Shunga meningche bularning qoshushning zoruriyiti bar dep qaraymen. >> Keyin yene yamaq selish toghra kelse shu chaghda salsaq bolidu. >> >> Kunupkini(hazirqi mesile tinish belgiliridila bar) birlikke kelturush ishi >> 20 yildin beri hel qilinmay kelgen ish, chunki hazirqi kunupka 85-yilila >> bekitilgen, shu chagdiki xataliq tinish belgiliri her xil orunlashturulghan. >> emdi yene qachan birlikke kelidu, hech kim bilmeydu. >> >> >> Salam bilen >> Gheyret T.Kenji >> 2010/05/12 >> >> 2010/5/12 Abdusalam Abdurahman <[email protected]> >> >>> Aldi bilen 2-elxettiki so'alingizgha jawab berey. 1-sige heliraq bosh >>> waqit chiqqanda jawab berey. >>> >>> Bu so'alning otturigha chiqidighanliqini burnla bilettim. [?] Toghra, u >>> halet kunupkisida *China* dep chiqidu (bumu manga ghelite korun'gen). >>> Bu menigche ashu halet kozniki yaki programmisining ozining xataliqi yaki >>> bolmisa shundaq layihilen'gen (bu ehtimalliqi towenrek). Meyli u yerde >>> qandaq korunsun, *XKB ning kunupka taxtiliri choqum bir doletke tewe >>> bolushi shert* iken (bu muqim qa'ide bolghachqa, emel qilmisaq >>> bolmaydiken; bu toghriliq Tibetchini qoshqan adashmu xkb-config ning ezaliri >>> bilen taza talash-tartish qiliptiken: >>> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12088). Shunga bu mesile >>> nowette mushu petiche turup turidu. Emeliyett *English* ke >>> almashtursingizmu *USA* dep chiqidu. >>> >>> >>> Azraq waqtim bar iken, emdi 1-elxettiki so'alliringizgha jawab beriwetey. >>> Men mundaq oylighan: >>> >>> Windows 7 diki Uyghurche kunupka orunlashturushi meyli qandaqla bolmisun, >>> u bir emeliyettiki olchem. Bu deginim, bu kunupka taxtisining wezni Uyghur >>> tor betliridiki herqandaq kunupka taxtiliri (meyli u qanche toghra yaki >>> aqiliane layihilen'gen bolsun) din eghir, teximu qa'il qilarliq kuchke ige. >>> Yeni, biz xeqke kunupka taxtimizni ewetkende uni mushuning olchemlik >>> ikenlige qa'il qildurushimiz kerek, gerche bu olchem sel kona bolsimu. >>> Toghra, bu kunupka taxtisida heqiqeten mesililer kop, bunisi manga besh >>> qoldek ayan, chunki menmu eyni waqitta shu munazirilerde bar. Lekin, >>> bizning u maniziridiki qararlirimiz, layihilirimiz meyli qanche aqilane, >>> mukemmel bolsun, u beribir hechqandaq olchem orgini yaki nopuzluq >>> organlarning testiqidin otup, resmiy hojjet supitide elan qilinmidi. >>> Shunga, men bu yerde yenila Windows 7 diki "olchemlik" kunupka taxtisini >>> (waqtinche) ishlitip turushni toghra taptim. Bundaq bolghanda, xkb-config >>> ning ezalirinimu qa'il qildurghili bolidu, shundaqla Linux bilen Windows 7 >>> arisidiki kunupka taxta birdeklini saqlighili bolidu. Emdi mawu yengi >>> layihe chiqqanda, bu kunupka taxtisigha yamaq salsaqmu yaki yengidin >>> olchemlik kunupka taxtisi qoshsaqmu bolidu (shu chaghda sozlisekmu gepimiz >>> chong bolidu, chunki bizning yollighinimiz hemmisi qanunluq, resmiy kunupka >>> taxtiliri, hergiz ozimizning oydurup chiqiriwalghan oyunchuqi emes). Bunisi >>> Windows diki kunupka taxtisigha ozgertish qilishqa qarighanda kop asanraq, >>> shundaq bolsimu choqum qa'idisi bilen, ilmiy ish qilishimiz kerek (XKB ning >>> Tibetchisimu del Windows Vista diki kunupka taxtisini kochurup ishletken). >>> Alim Ehed ependimning koz qarishimu mushundaq bolghan. >>> >>> Rehmet. >>> >>> 2010/5/12 Gheyret T. Kenji <[email protected]> >>> >>>> Yene bir Ekran korunushi, >>>> >>>> Bu qetim Ekranni quluplap(Screen Lock) qilghanda chiqqan koznekni >>>> ewettim. bu yerdimu China dep korundi. >>>> >>>> Salam Bilen >>>> Gheyret T.Kenji >>>> 2010/05/12 >>>> >>>> >>>> 2010/5/12 Gheyret T. Kenji <[email protected]> >>>> >>>>> Essalamuleykum, >>>>> >>>>> Uyghurchini ayrim orunlashturghili bolmasmu? >>>>> chunki men kirguzguchni orunlashturup, Uyghurche kirguzush halitige >>>>> otsem, kunupka haliti china dep chiqti, Uyghurche dep korunmidi. >>>>> ekran korunushi(screenshot) ni ewettim. >>>>> >>>>> Salam Bilen >>>>> Gheyret T.Kenji >>>>> 2010/05/12 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2010/5/12 Gheyret T. Kenji <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> Essalamueleykum Abdusalam Abdurahman ependi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Japaliq emgikingiz uchun sizge kop teshekkur. >>>>>> Bir qanche mesilini otturgha qoymaqchimen: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Otkende Bilik we UKIJ tor betliride siziq heqqide pikirler bolup, >>>>>> _(pes siziq ) kunupkisigha –(siziq 0x2013) orunlashturush qarar >>>>>> qilin'ghan >>>>>> idi. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. uningdin bashqa "<"(kichik) bilen ">"(chong) ikki kunupkigha, >>>>>> Uyghur tilidiki tinish belgilerdin yalang tirnaq "‹"(0x2039) we >>>>>> "›"(0x203a) >>>>>> ni orunlashturush heqqidimu pikirler bolghan. >>>>>> mening his qilishimche , kirguzguch yasighuchilar qosh tirnaqni >>>>>> "«"(0x00ab),"»"(0x00BB) ni bastaxtigha orunlashturushni unutmisimu, >>>>>> yalang >>>>>> tirnaqni orunlashturushni untup qalidighan ehwal jiq iken. >>>>>> bu yalang tirnaq heqqidimu bilikte pikirler bolghan idi, shu boyiche >>>>>> aptor(Muhemmed ependi) buni tuzetken idi, hazirmu bilik we bashqa >>>>>> muhemmed >>>>>> ependi ishligen kirguzguchni ishlitiwatqan betlerde, buni ongayla sinap >>>>>> korushke bolidu. >>>>>> >>>>>> Menmu UyghurEdit mushundaq orunlashturghan idim. >>>>>> meningche mushu uch herpni qoshuwetsingiz, hazirghiche kop >>>>>> ishlitidighan kirguzguchlerdiki tinish belgiliri oxshash bolghan bolidu. >>>>>> bumu keyinki olchemleshturushke paydiliq dep qaraymen. >>>>>> >>>>>> Salam Bilen >>>>>> Gheyret T.Kenji >>>>>> 2010/05/12 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2010/5/12 Abdusalam Abdurahman <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yaxshimuzler kopchilik, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Otkende men Ubuntu diki Uyghurche kunupka taxtisi toghrisida koz >>>>>>> qarishimni otturigha qoyghan. Shu qetimqi munaziridin keyin, Ubuntu >>>>>>> 10.04 >>>>>>> da qoshup tarqitilghan Uyghurche kunupka taxtisini esta'idil bir >>>>>>> tekshurup, >>>>>>> bayqighan mesililerni tuzitip axirida unining XKB nusxisini putturup >>>>>>> tugettim. Bugun manu shu kunupka tastisini sizlerning tekshurup >>>>>>> berishinglargha sunmaqchi. Bolsa hemme ezalar oz sistemisida bir sinap >>>>>>> beqip, mesililer bolsa manga yetkuzse, tuzetkendin keyin yaki mesililer >>>>>>> bayqalmisa, men xkb-config proyektining ezaliri bilen alaqiliship bu >>>>>>> kunupka >>>>>>> taxtini ular arqiliq Xorg ning XKB bolikige qoshuwetishni >>>>>>> oylishiwatimen. >>>>>>> Bundaq bolghanda, Xorg ni asas qilghan herqandaq *nix sistemilirida, >>>>>>> hechqandaq 3-chi terep yumshaq detalliri (mesilen, SCIM, Fcitx, IBus >>>>>>> degendekler) gha tayanmayla, xuddiy US kunupka taxtisini nahayiti asanla >>>>>>> qoshup ishletkendek, biwasite Uyghurche kunupka taxtisini qoshup >>>>>>> ishletkili >>>>>>> bolidu. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Emdi bu kunupka taxtisi toghrisa bir omumiy chushenche beriwetey: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Bu kunupka taxtisi Muhemmed Abdulla ependim teminligen >>>>>>> Uyghurche kunupka taxta asasida ozgertip tuzuldi (munasiwetlik >>>>>>> materiyallar >>>>>>> Yulghun tor bekitiidin elindi). >>>>>>> 2. Yengi elan qilinmaqchi bolghan olchemlik Uyghurche kunupka >>>>>>> taxtisi qisqa waqit ichide chiqish entimalliqi yoq bolghachqa (Alim >>>>>>> Ehed >>>>>>> ependimning koz qarisihi), bu kunupka taxtisidiki Uyghurche >>>>>>> herplerning >>>>>>> orunlashturulishi Windows 7 diki Uyghurche kunupka taxtisiningki >>>>>>> bilen >>>>>>> oxshash qilip tuzuldi. Emma, XKB ning qa'idisi sewebi, L >>>>>>> kunupkisining >>>>>>> Shift halettiki qimmitige Uyghurche qoshma herp LA orunlashturulmidi. >>>>>>> 3. Bu kunupka taxtisi Ubuntu 10.04 neshride sinaldi. Bu neshride >>>>>>> ozgertishke (yaki yamaq selishqa tegishlik) hojjetler tertipi bilen: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/cn >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base.xml >>>>>>> /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base.lst >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.xml >>>>>>> /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.lst >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sinaq qilmaqchi bolghan ezalar qoshumchidiki prislan'ghan 5 >>>>>>> hojjet arqiliq sistemingizdiki mushu 5 hojjetni qaplap >>>>>>> kochuruwetsingizla >>>>>>> bolidu (*sudo* buyruqi bilen meshghulat qilishqa diqqet qiling). >>>>>>> Ubuntuning kona neshrliri (<=8.10?) "*base*" hojjetlerni >>>>>>> ishletse, bezi neshrliri (>=9.04?) "*evdev*" hojjetlerni >>>>>>> ishlitidiken, shunga hemmisini ozgertip qoydum. >>>>>>> 4. Yuqiridiki qedem orunlinip bolghandin keyin, ustel yuzide >>>>>>> towendiki basquchlar arqiliq bu Uyghurche taxtisini qozghitimiz: >>>>>>> 1)* System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layouts *ni eching; >>>>>>> 2) *Add* ni besing; >>>>>>> 3) *By Country *betige kiring (*By Language* betidin qoshsingizmu >>>>>>> bolidu); >>>>>>> 4) *Country* tizimlik qutisidin *China* ni tallang; >>>>>>> 5) *Variants* tizimlik qutisidin *China Uyghur* ni tallang; >>>>>>> 6) *Add* ni besip jezimleshturung; >>>>>>> 7) Keyinki koznekte, *Close* ni besip meshghuletni >>>>>>> axirilashturung. >>>>>>> 8) Emdi ustel yuzidiki Panel de kunupka taxtisi almashturush >>>>>>> sinbelgisi korunidu. Ashu sin belgisini chekish yaki birikme >>>>>>> kunupkilar >>>>>>> arqiliq kunupka taxtingizni almashtursingiz bolidu. >>>>>>> 5. Sinaq jeryanida herqandaq mesile bolsa, mushu elxet tizimliki >>>>>>> yaki manage biwasite elxet yollang. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rehmet. >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Abdusalam Abdurahman >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-ug >>>>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-ug >>>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Gheyret T. Kenji >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Gheyret T. Kenji >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Gheyret T. Kenji >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> Abdusalam Abdurahman >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Gheyret T. Kenji >> > > > > -- > Gheyret T. 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