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alan c wrote:
> Jan Vancura wrote:
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>> Jenda Vancura wrote:
>>> Brian Burger wrote:
>>>
>>>>> One of the biggest things ubuntu-marketing could/should do for
>>>>> visibility is establish a presence on ubuntuforums.org
>>>>> <http://ubuntuforums.org> - having your own forums is nice, but
>>>>> like them or loathe them, the main Ubuntu Forums are one of the
>>>>> busiest, most active parts of the 'ordinary users' community.
>>>>>
>>>>> An "Ubuntu Marketing & Advocacy" forum somewhere on the Forums
>>>>> would bring in new people, and almost certainly pay off in
>>>>> increased participation, both in the official ubuntu-marketing team
>>>>> and generally in the whole community.
>>>>>
>>>>> My $0.02, (crossposted to both -doc and -marketing just this once,
>>>>> for feedback)
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian/Madpilot
>>
>> This is an old issue which I'd like to revisit.
>> On our first meeting (or, the first recent one), we decided that we
>> don't want a forum. I'd like to know if opinions have changed on this.
>>
>> Mine has been floating around a little bit. With a little bit of work,
>> we could set up a bridge, that would crosspost to the list and vice
>> versa. This has worked for the ubuntu-users ML for months (at least).
> 
> 
> I use forums for a situation which is 'acute' - short lived - problem,
> emergency, specific task etc.
> I use ongoing email discussions - that is, an email list - for ongoing
> and committted situations and interests.
> My interest in marketing is ongoing and long term, so I would look to a
> list for this. If a good list option was unavailable I would be much
> less involved indeed.
> 
> A forum is an on-line facility, and can be slow under some
> circumstances, it is also more difficult to quickly get a visual scan of
> the subjects. In fact in a forum I find this impossible in reality.
> 
> When I use a forum I dig into a single isolated topic, at a time, and
> then leave (sign out). I then have no idea of ongoing topics missed.
> 
> I can, and do, accommodate about 20 email lists similar to this one,
> (and usenet or newsgroups also) different aspects of my life.
> I would not in any way be able to offer similar ongoing committed
> attention for (similar) *forums*, just too cumbersome.
> 
> I think technical forums are good, for example yahoogroups
> linux-dell-laptops. I visit this a few times per year when I have a
> special nugget of information to share, or a special need to ask or
> search. I do not use the yahoogroup facility option of a 'list' for that
> group.
> 
> Another yahoogroup I use only as an email list- I review its content daily.
> 
> A forum makes it easy for occasional use. Just drop in and then go away
> and forget it for a while. I wonder if an interest in marketing is one
> which will benefit from this access?
> 

There is a lot of untapped talent and workforce on the forums, and we
need it. People only very rarely stumble on our wiki to come and ask us
here, and I guarantee you that nearly none of them will browse the
mailing list archives to see what has been going on.

We each see mailing lists and forums differently it would seem. For
example, I tend to watch mailing lists only if I have an ongoing topic
there, but I often scan relevant parts of ubuntuforums.org and two other
fora to see what's going on there.
For acute, emergency issues, I always use IRC.

Another point is, that for you, there will be no change, except for new
traffic on the list, if we have a bridge, and none at all if we just
create a tiny forum about advocacy on the forums.

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