On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 19:20 +0100, Jan Vancura wrote:
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> alan c wrote:
> > Jan Vancura wrote:
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> >> Jenda Vancura wrote:
> >>> Brian Burger wrote:
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> >>>>> One of the biggest things ubuntu-marketing could/should do for
> >>>>> visibility is establish a presence on ubuntuforums.org
> >>>>> <http://ubuntuforums.org> - having your own forums is nice, but
> >>>>> like them or loathe them, the main Ubuntu Forums are one of the
> >>>>> busiest, most active parts of the 'ordinary users' community.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> An "Ubuntu Marketing & Advocacy" forum somewhere on the Forums
> >>>>> would bring in new people, and almost certainly pay off in
> >>>>> increased participation, both in the official ubuntu-marketing team
> >>>>> and generally in the whole community.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My $0.02, (crossposted to both -doc and -marketing just this once,
> >>>>> for feedback)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Brian/Madpilot
> >>
> >> This is an old issue which I'd like to revisit.
> >> On our first meeting (or, the first recent one), we decided that we
> >> don't want a forum. I'd like to know if opinions have changed on this.
> >>
> >> Mine has been floating around a little bit. With a little bit of work,
> >> we could set up a bridge, that would crosspost to the list and vice
> >> versa. This has worked for the ubuntu-users ML for months (at least).
> > 
> > 
> > I use forums for a situation which is 'acute' - short lived - problem,
> > emergency, specific task etc.
> > I use ongoing email discussions - that is, an email list - for ongoing
> > and committted situations and interests.
> > My interest in marketing is ongoing and long term, so I would look to a
> > list for this. If a good list option was unavailable I would be much
> > less involved indeed.
> > 
> > A forum is an on-line facility, and can be slow under some
> > circumstances, it is also more difficult to quickly get a visual scan of
> > the subjects. In fact in a forum I find this impossible in reality.
> > 
> > When I use a forum I dig into a single isolated topic, at a time, and
> > then leave (sign out). I then have no idea of ongoing topics missed.
> > 
> > I can, and do, accommodate about 20 email lists similar to this one,
> > (and usenet or newsgroups also) different aspects of my life.
> > I would not in any way be able to offer similar ongoing committed
> > attention for (similar) *forums*, just too cumbersome.
> > 
> > I think technical forums are good, for example yahoogroups
> > linux-dell-laptops. I visit this a few times per year when I have a
> > special nugget of information to share, or a special need to ask or
> > search. I do not use the yahoogroup facility option of a 'list' for that
> > group.
> > 
> > Another yahoogroup I use only as an email list- I review its content daily.
> > 
> > A forum makes it easy for occasional use. Just drop in and then go away
> > and forget it for a while. I wonder if an interest in marketing is one
> > which will benefit from this access?
> > 
> 
> There is a lot of untapped talent and workforce on the forums, and we
> need it. People only very rarely stumble on our wiki to come and ask us
> here, and I guarantee you that nearly none of them will browse the
> mailing list archives to see what has been going on.
> 
> We each see mailing lists and forums differently it would seem. For
> example, I tend to watch mailing lists only if I have an ongoing topic
> there, but I often scan relevant parts of ubuntuforums.org and two other
> fora to see what's going on there.
> For acute, emergency issues, I always use IRC.
> 
> Another point is, that for you, there will be no change, except for new
> traffic on the list, if we have a bridge, and none at all if we just
> create a tiny forum about advocacy on the forums.

Just for interest sakes, check out the
https://wiki.edubuntu.org/ForumAmbassadors spec in progress.

Regards,
Will van der Leij


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