On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 19:20 +0100, Jan Vancura wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > alan c wrote: > > Jan Vancura wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> Jenda Vancura wrote: > >>> Brian Burger wrote: > >>> > >>>>> One of the biggest things ubuntu-marketing could/should do for > >>>>> visibility is establish a presence on ubuntuforums.org > >>>>> <http://ubuntuforums.org> - having your own forums is nice, but > >>>>> like them or loathe them, the main Ubuntu Forums are one of the > >>>>> busiest, most active parts of the 'ordinary users' community. > >>>>> > >>>>> An "Ubuntu Marketing & Advocacy" forum somewhere on the Forums > >>>>> would bring in new people, and almost certainly pay off in > >>>>> increased participation, both in the official ubuntu-marketing team > >>>>> and generally in the whole community. > >>>>> > >>>>> My $0.02, (crossposted to both -doc and -marketing just this once, > >>>>> for feedback) > >>>>> > >>>>> Brian/Madpilot > >> > >> This is an old issue which I'd like to revisit. > >> On our first meeting (or, the first recent one), we decided that we > >> don't want a forum. I'd like to know if opinions have changed on this. > >> > >> Mine has been floating around a little bit. With a little bit of work, > >> we could set up a bridge, that would crosspost to the list and vice > >> versa. This has worked for the ubuntu-users ML for months (at least). > > > > > > I use forums for a situation which is 'acute' - short lived - problem, > > emergency, specific task etc. > > I use ongoing email discussions - that is, an email list - for ongoing > > and committted situations and interests. > > My interest in marketing is ongoing and long term, so I would look to a > > list for this. If a good list option was unavailable I would be much > > less involved indeed. > > > > A forum is an on-line facility, and can be slow under some > > circumstances, it is also more difficult to quickly get a visual scan of > > the subjects. In fact in a forum I find this impossible in reality. > > > > When I use a forum I dig into a single isolated topic, at a time, and > > then leave (sign out). I then have no idea of ongoing topics missed. > > > > I can, and do, accommodate about 20 email lists similar to this one, > > (and usenet or newsgroups also) different aspects of my life. > > I would not in any way be able to offer similar ongoing committed > > attention for (similar) *forums*, just too cumbersome. > > > > I think technical forums are good, for example yahoogroups > > linux-dell-laptops. I visit this a few times per year when I have a > > special nugget of information to share, or a special need to ask or > > search. I do not use the yahoogroup facility option of a 'list' for that > > group. > > > > Another yahoogroup I use only as an email list- I review its content daily. > > > > A forum makes it easy for occasional use. Just drop in and then go away > > and forget it for a while. I wonder if an interest in marketing is one > > which will benefit from this access? > > > > There is a lot of untapped talent and workforce on the forums, and we > need it. People only very rarely stumble on our wiki to come and ask us > here, and I guarantee you that nearly none of them will browse the > mailing list archives to see what has been going on. > > We each see mailing lists and forums differently it would seem. For > example, I tend to watch mailing lists only if I have an ongoing topic > there, but I often scan relevant parts of ubuntuforums.org and two other > fora to see what's going on there. > For acute, emergency issues, I always use IRC. > > Another point is, that for you, there will be no change, except for new > traffic on the list, if we have a bridge, and none at all if we just > create a tiny forum about advocacy on the forums.
Just for interest sakes, check out the https://wiki.edubuntu.org/ForumAmbassadors spec in progress. Regards, Will van der Leij -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing