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Simon,

Yes, defining a mission can take a lot of time, but we really cannot do 
any of the other stuff until we define, at least in general terms, who 
we are and what we do. This lack of a clear mission is, IMHO, the 
reason this team has not been effective. That and a lack of leadership. 
We need to resolve both these issues at this meeting no matter how long 
it takes or we will just continue going nowhere.

I did warn everyone that this meeting might take awhile when I 
suggested the 1200 UTC start time LOL

Peace!

John


On 06/04/2008 01:17:40 AM, Simon Schneebeli wrote:
> Still new here and about to understand how things work.
> 
> As for the agenda:
> 
> Having worked with different teams, I have made the experience that 
> it
> 
> takes a lot of time to define a mission statement with which 
> everybody
> 
> can identify, that is I think that one meeting of maybe one or two
> hours 
> involving a lot of people is not enough to work out a mission
> statement, 
> the way we work with Canonical, improve the internal communication 
> AND
> 
> ways to improve the team wiki. When I coach teams in defining their 
> mission statement, values, strategies etc, this takes generaly 
> several
> 
> days, and this is done only involing a small team.
> 
> So my proposition is to cut down drastically the agenda to
> - get to know who is doing what today
> - elect a "mars team" that is supposed to work out a proposal for
>      . mission statement
>      . team structure
>      . next steps (eventually, depending on the time that is left)
> 
> I'm just afraid, that if our agenda will be too ambitious, we will 
> all
> 
> end up frustrated because we won't have time to discuss all that.
> 
> Simon
> 
> Bruno Barrera Yever a écrit :
> > I can be the scribe if you want.
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Rubén Hubuntu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >   
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: Rubén Hubuntu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:13 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Next MarketingTeam Meeting - June
> 7th 2008 -
> >> 21
> >> To: Onno Benschop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     
> >>> Sorry, running out the door, but has this been booked in
> ubuntu-meeting
> >>> because then we'll get the services of mootbot which will log
> action
> >>> points and log the meeting to a meeting file.
> >>>       
> >> Please, can somebody "book us" and add us to the fridge as well?
> After
> >> confirmation I will add it to the Issue 93 of UWN.
> >>
> >>     
> >>> Also, from the messages I'm unsure where the meeting will be 
> held,
> >>> ubuntu-meeting, or ubuntu-marketing?
> >>>
> >>> Personally I think it should be in ubuntu-meeting and leave the
> >>> ubuntu-marketing room for day-to-day "live" support.
> >>>       
> >> +1 for #ubuntu-meeting @ irc.freenode.net
> >> All community teams (not LoCos though) use it and it works pretty
> well.
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance!
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> R.
> >> https://launchpad.net/~huayra
> >>
> >>
> >>
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