Tal Beno wrote: > I wish to comment please on Steve's original mail as well as on the overall > reply that Steve got from Mr. Emmet Hikory.
Although I've been replying to a number of these mails, it's not that I'm someone particularly special when it comes to Ubuntu Mobile: I'm just a user who was unsatisfied with both Ubuntu MID and Ubuntu Desktop on my Kohjinsha SR. Oliver credits me with some help with the installer, but that truly belongs to the many contributors to the installer technologies used, some originating in Ubuntu, and some in Debian. I may be an Ubuntu Developer, but that's just because I've been an Ubuntu user and contributor for long enough that someone granted me upload rights (I have not checked to see if any of my patches are in Ubuntu Mobile). Nothing I'm saying represents anything other than my opinion, and shouldn't be taken as a statement of policy of any sort. > But as many analysts are claiming the Linux landscape is way too fractured > in general and on the mobile front, so to make this one stand out of the > crowd and give MS a real fight (as with the desktop edition) Canonical can't > throw it on the community as a prime resource, at least not at this stage. > I beg to argue that this is all a big waste of time if you don't intend > realizing the huge potential you have in your hands, and invest much more > resources on its success. The community will follow only when seeing your > own initial commitment ... I take great issue with this assertion. Ubuntu is developed by a large and diverse community, and that Ubuntu Mobile is developed entirely within and as part of Ubuntu is surely a good means by which to ensure that the work done includes the work of the largest number of interested parties. While is it certainly true that Canonical offers significant support to Ubuntu, including almost all of the infrastructure and funding for a number of the developers (I believe it to be over 10%, including more than a third of the most active developers, although I could be mistaken), for which much appreciation is deserved, it is not the case that Ubuntu Mobile is something which Canonical is "throwing on the community", nor is it the case that Ubuntu Mobile being community created and community supported necessarily means that nobody associated with Canonical will be involved in that community. While Oliver has created the initial preview image for Ubuntu Mobile, the idea originates from the UDS held in Prague, has been discussed in the #ubuntu-mobile channel in freenode for some time, and relies heavily on the work of the entire Ubuntu community in order to function as well as it does. The Ubuntu Mobile community is expected to support this new flavour (as is true for the community surrounding any Ubuntu flavour), and that community consists of interested people from many sources, including Canonical. If there are no interested individuals, then there is no community, and there is no point in having such a flavour of Ubuntu. I know I'm interested, and judging from the mail here, the comments to Oliver's blog entry, and the comments to Steve's article, I'm fairly certain I'm not alone. There's no reason we can't make Ubuntu Mobile great, but it's not right to frame this as a competition between corporate entities, or to try to fit some analyst's model: the key idea is to make something that we want to use, and to seek out any resources we need to make it as good as it can be. -- Emmet HIKORY -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile