On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Daniel Holbach <daniel.holb...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > We feel that these changes are going to be a notable improvement and we > would like to hear your thoughts on them, so we can move to the new > format real soon now.
Hi Daniel (and MOTU Council)- Thank you very much for addressing these concerns and putting forth some suggested changes. I think what you are suggesting is quite good. Open IRC meetings every 2 weeks to vote on applications in real time, wiki-based applications -- that's great. I mentioned this previously in the 2-hour MOTU plenary session at UDS. I will again present a controversial suggestion... I really believe the MOTU and Core-Dev application processes would greatly benefit from some minimal, objective criteria. It should be perfectly clear that meeting these objective criteria will not be sufficient, alone, to achieve MOTU/Core-Dev. However, I think there absolutely must be something more objective for an aspiring MOTU/CoreDev to achieve before taking the time/effort to apply. At UDS, the argument was, "you should apply when your sponsors think you're ready." I agree with that, however, that's just not enough... Different sponsors have quite different thresholds and criteria. A chief concern with my MOTU application was that I had not touched enough Universe packages. Not to pick on Michael, but his Core Dev application is currently blocking on the issue that he hasn't been MOTU for "long enough". I'm sure there are other examples of applicants, who, like Michael and I, were encouraged by all of our sponsors to apply, but were met with somewhat arbitrary arguments of not having done enough XYZ in Ubuntu yet... I suggest setting some guideline criteria for both MOTU and Core Dev, in terms of: * minimum number of sponsored uploads fixing bugs (Main & Universe) * minimum number of package merges (Main & Universe) * minimum number of new packages (Main & Universe) * time spent as an active member of (Ubuntu, Contributing Developer, MOTU, etc) * perhaps others? Again, I reiterate, that the absolute number of each of these should not be sufficient or automatic for attaining privileges. Clearly some bugs/merges/packages are much harder/easier than others. But, please, please, please let's add some minority element of objectivity to the processes. :-Dustin -- Ubuntu-motu mailing list Ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu