On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 03:28:26PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > This is pretty close to the UDS discussion. A number of Kubuntu people > wanted a separate package set because, specifically, of people who > focused on these packages getting deferred from MOTU because the had > worked too much on KDE stuff.
Like Michael, I'd like to hear more about this. I don't recall anything like this. > Several people, myself included, argued against this since if we > fragment Universe too much, the potential set of MOTU recruits will > narrow significantly. We decided that it was perfectly OK for > potential MOTU to be somewhat focused as long as they were well > integrated with the MOTU community. Let me just for the record say that I maintain that what Fabrice did and said was a friendly and helpful piece of advice. shadeslayer asked about a mentor for his path towards MOTU. Shortly thereafter, he mentions that he's been working on a qt package at which point Fabrice lets him know there are other fora available for people focused on those things. Seeing as he's looking for a mentor and apparantly has an interest in qt/kde stuff, it seems helpful to me to tell him that the folks who focus on that hang out elsewhere. With that out of the way, let's focus on what I think is key here. I hardly think Fabrice meant to (nor actually did, but I acknowledge that this is disputed) brush off shadeslayer. He suggested that he could connect to the kubuntu channels, thereby implying that he believes there's more qualified help and/or mentoring to be found there for the stuff that he seems interested in. Why would he do that? I'm going to take a wild guess and say: Because it's true. Kubuntu folks hang out in Kubuntu channels. Server people hang out in server channels. This is normal. What sort of mean person would /not/ tell a prospective Kubuntu developer to strike up a conversation with likeminded developers? Seriously, if I came into #ubuntu-motu and desperately wanted to work on server or virtualisation stuff, I'd be pretty pissed if weeks went by before anyone told me that there were IRC channels /dedicated to the exact stuff that I'm interested in/. You can bet your shoes that I'll keep referring people to other channels if I think they'll get better help there for exactly as long as I believe this is still true. If you want me to stop doing so, you need to make it not be true anymore. Simple as that. If something changes so that I think it's likely that people will get just as qualified guidance for Kubuntu stuff in #ubuntu-motu as in #kubuntu-devel (I don't even know how that will make sense, but let's just pretend that it does), sure, I /might/ consider refraining from mentioning the existence of #kubuntu-devel to them, but until then I think it's pretty effing rude not to let them know that these other fora exist. -- Soren Hansen Ubuntu Developer http://www.ubuntu.com/
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