The message was meant or the Manual team. I chose the wrong mailing list. Sorry 
about that! 

Thomas

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>   1. Upgrade tests are there own product (Nicholas Skaggs)
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>   3. Re: Quick Question... (Sergio Meneses)
>   4. Re: Upgrade tests are there own product (St?phane Graber)
>   5. Introduction Harry Hawk (HABS)
>   6. Re: [Lubuntu-qa] 13.04 Beta 1 (Nio Wiklund)
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> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:12:57 -0400
> From: Nicholas Skaggs <nicholas.ska...@canonical.com>
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> Pas was asking about why upgrade tests are currently there own product 
> (image) on the tracker, and as such are lumped away from the main 
> product (image) tests. Is there a reason for this? Pasi was hoping more 
> visibility would be had if those tests were pushed back into the main 
> products themselves. So for example, the upgrade xubuntu tests would 
> appear under xubuntu with the other installation tests.
> 
> I know historically they've been seperated out, so I was hoping for some 
> background information or feedback from someone who might have a reason 
> to object to the change of moving these tests back into the main products.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Nicholas
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> From: Sergio Meneses <sergioandresmene...@gmail.com>
> To: "Javier P.L." <chilic...@ubuntu.com>
> Cc: "ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com"
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> Hi all!
> 
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Javier P.L. <chilic...@ubuntu.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 13/03/13 at 06:41pm, Nicholas Skaggs wrote:
>>> I know we're all knee deep in testing this week, but I would like to
>>> talk about planning for our next hackfest. We've done 3 so far this
>>> cycle, and I'd like to squeeze in one more if we can before beta2
>>> testing.
>>> 
>>> I'd love to hear preferred days/times, what you'd like to see
>>> covered / format (IRC vs g+ vs ?), etc. I'd like to see manual and
>>> automated tests being written and hacked on as part of the 'fest.
>>> Now is the time to get your feedback in :-)
> 
> IRC would be better (imho) but we can try G+ as well
> 
> 
>>> 
>>> To give you something concrete to work against, here's my thoughts
>>> on how I would run the fest.
>>> 
>>> We'll pick a 2-4? hour window on IRC on freenode in #ubuntu-quality
>>> We'll encourage pending open bugs, aka, needed cases, to be try and
>>> closed as part of the fest
>>> We'll commit and merge everything possible at the end of the fest
>>> We'll celebrate with virtual party supplies once complete :-)
>> 
>> Cool, I'd like to see it for 1 full day instead of some specific hours, it
>> works
>> better for me at weekends but I don't expect other persons to be as
>> antisocial
>> as me =)
> +1 I think weekends is better for all us...
> 
> 
>> In my opinion I think it could follow the same format as the Ubuntu Bug
>> day[0],
>> which means a list of todo items should be generated somewhere (probably
>> the
>> wiki) and everyone could be able work on the ones that they want. In such
>> format
>> I'd like to see extra help on #ubuntu-quality, I mean, I've always been
>> able to
>> find help in there when needed, however I think it'd great if quality
>> members
>> could commit to be in there at specific hours depending of their time
>> zones so
>> voluntaries can find specially welcoming quality members waiting for them.
> 
> I had the chance to participate in the bug day and its format is very cool!
> maybe we can add some ideas.
> 
> 
>> 
>> Just my 2 cents, I'm looking forward for participating =)
>> 
>> [0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay
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> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:17:09 -0500
> From: Sergio Meneses <sergioandresmene...@gmail.com>
> To: Thomas Corwin <dog1...@hotmail.com>
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> I dont know if I get your point completely, but you're asking for a new
> ubuntu-testcase about wine, right?
> 
> Sergio Meneses
> Linux User: #478743
> Ubuntu User: #24056
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Thomas Corwin <dog1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hello everyone! Now, I don't like to ask bad questions, especially when I
>> don't have a voice in the matter, but, has anyone ever thought of adding a
>> Wine section to the manual?
>> 
>> Now, I know what some of you are thinking, "Why would we need this? It's
>> completely unrelated." I think it is relative, mainly because it is a very
>> common application used in Linux.
>> 
>> If somehow, this idea is approved, I will take this section, otherwise, I
>> may not be able to help in anyway to the manual, due to the fact I know
>> more about Wine, than any of the available sections for editing.
>> 
>> Thought I'd ask!
>> Thomas Corwin
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> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:18:39 -0400
> From: St?phane Graber <stgra...@ubuntu.com>
> To: Nicholas Skaggs <nicholas.ska...@canonical.com>
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> On 03/14/2013 12:12 PM, Nicholas Skaggs wrote:
>> Pas was asking about why upgrade tests are currently there own product
>> (image) on the tracker, and as such are lumped away from the main
>> product (image) tests. Is there a reason for this? Pasi was hoping more
>> visibility would be had if those tests were pushed back into the main
>> products themselves. So for example, the upgrade xubuntu tests would
>> appear under xubuntu with the other installation tests.
>> 
>> I know historically they've been seperated out, so I was hoping for some
>> background information or feedback from someone who might have a reason
>> to object to the change of moving these tests back into the main products.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Nicholas
> 
> That'd be because a respin of an image shouldn't reset the upgrade
> results. The upgrade products are typically reset all at the same time
> whenever a massive change happens that affects upgrades.
> 
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> From: HABS <h...@panix.com>
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> I have purchased at Nexus 7 which I have dedicated to testing Ubuntu and
> have the current install of 13.04 (March 9th) via the Nexus Core Installer
> and updated via the Software Update. More often than note the update
> process fails. I have yet to install the touch apps, which I plan on doing
> shortly.
> 
> My name is Harry S. Hawk. I'm moderately technical end use who has been
> using *Nix since the mid 1980's. I have the most experience with NetBSD and
> Ubuntu. I have a background in technology integration, marketing
> communications and cooking. I am an expert at cooking regional hamburgers.
> I hold degrees from NYU's ITP program and masters from SNHU's marketing
> program. I have worked at AT&T Bell Labs, EF Hutton, and a variety of
> advertising agencies.
> 
> My most recent technical employment was at the newly relaunched Commodore
> USA. I am currently managing retail operations and marketing at the Leske's
> Bakery division of The Bread Depo, Inc. If you are in Brooklyn or visiting
> Brooklyn please say hello.. The first DOUGHNUT is always FREE
> www.LeskesBakery.com
> 
> /hawk
> h...@panix.com
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> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 18:22:16 +0100
> From: Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com>
> To: Alex Janko <ajbi...@gmail.com>
> Cc: "ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com"
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> Is there a way to send this task to a developer, who would know
> 
> 1. where that test is done (the source code)
> 
> 2. how to do it (or pass the code to someone less skilled, but enough
> skilled to compile and try out a snippet with that particular test on
> various computers).
> 
> If it is plain C or a bash or sh shellscript, I might dare an attempt at
> it, but I definitely need some handholding, above all, I have no idea
> where to find where the test is done.
> 
> On 2013-03-14 12:42, Alex Janko wrote:
>> Well...I assume its in assembly or CSomething and I know neither of
>> those languages
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Mar 14, 2013, at 7:37 AM, Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I was thinking about how to report a bug: what details to check out and
>>> explain.
>>> 
>>> I think I understand what you want to do, and I think it will be
>>> possible, but, well, I've retired from programming. Nowadays I'm helping
>>> and testing. So I don't know where and how that check should be changed.
>>> 
>>> But when you have something to test, I'm willing to check that it works
>>> in my Pentium M computer.
>>> 
>>> On 2013-03-14 11:53, Alex Janko wrote:
>>>> We were just looking at how to possibly fix the CD loader to not require 
>>>> 7bit
>>>> 
>>>> Like:
>>>> 
>>>> If Pentium M {
>>>>    Skip PAE Check
>>>> } Else If (PAE=1) {
>>>>    boot();
>>>> } Else {
>>>>    paeErrorBoot();
>>>> }
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry O only knew how to write that out in java :)
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 14, 2013, at 1:17 AM, Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Phill,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have an IBM Thinkpad T42 with a non-pae Pentium M, that accepts 7bit's
>>>>> fake-pae. What do you need? Please specify in detail, and I'll try to do
>>>>> it :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nio alias sudodus
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2013-03-13 02:45, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>>>>>> Hi alex,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I do not have enough information to ask the developers about your 
>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>> We really do need a bug filing as per my earlier email to you.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Phill.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 12 March 2013 14:15, Phill Whiteside <phi...@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Oooch!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You can always grab a non-pae version and install that so that the 
>>>>>>> machine
>>>>>>> has a (u)buntu running. Lubuntu were still certainly releasing non-pae
>>>>>>> versions up to 12.04 *i386 *[1] which should install on that machine.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Phill.
>>>>>>> 1. http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/precise/release/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 12 March 2013 14:02, Alex Janko <ajbi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Not anymore, no
>>>>>>>> And my sash box just went down...for some reason when running a "chmod 
>>>>>>>> -R
>>>>>>>> 444 /var/www/dir/dir/" it decided to ignore all of that and start at /
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 12, 2013, at 10:00 AM, Phill Whiteside <phi...@ubuntu.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Have you got a version of ubuntu installed onto that computer?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Phill.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 12 March 2013 13:38, Alex Janko <ajbi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Being a noob...how do I do that exactly...link?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 12, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Phill Whiteside <phi...@ubuntu.com> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> would you please raise a bug against ubiquity, open a terminal session
>>>>>>>>> and issue:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ubuntu-bug ubiquity
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> from the pentium M machine, I'm not too sure what the team can do 
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> it if the machine does not advertise it, but it will allow them to 
>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>> think.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Phill.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 12 March 2013 12:34, Alex Janko <ajbi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hmm...I also notice that there is an issue with Pentium M 
>>>>>>>>>> models...they
>>>>>>>>>> have PAE but yet don't advertise it...is there any way to allow the 
>>>>>>>>>> PAE
>>>>>>>>>> ISOs to boot on Pentium M computers?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I've been told it had to do with the boot check, not an actual failed
>>>>>>>>>> boot
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 12, 2013, at 8:29 AM, Phill Whiteside <phi...@ubuntu.com> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Lars,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> well spotted.... I thought the list of testing was a bit shorter, but
>>>>>>>>>> didn't spot why.... Any ways,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 12:00:20) phillw: Hi folks, has AMD64+Mac been dropped from the 
>>>>>>>>>> ISO's?
>>>>>>>>>>> (12:06:37) cjwatson: phillw: No change there
>>>>>>>>>>> (12:07:05) ***cjwatson fixes bug 1153992 and tries to work out what
>>>>>>>>>>> to respin
>>>>>>>>>>> (12:07:06) ubot2: Launchpad bug 1153992 in Ubuntu CD Images "Raring
>>>>>>>>>>> server and precise d-i installations fail at the clock configuring 
>>>>>>>>>>> step"
>>>>>>>>>>> [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1153992
>>>>>>>>>>> (12:08:31) ***cjwatson sticks a notice on the iso.qa board
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> So, they're onto it :)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Phill.
>>>>>>>>>> P.S. you are allowed to ask directly on #ubuntu-release, the good
>>>>>>>>>> people on there do not bite :)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 12 March 2013 11:40, Lars Nood?n <lars.noo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 12.03.2013 04:53, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/261/builds
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I notice that there are no AMD64+Mac images.  Are we skipping those
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> time?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> /Lars
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