Alright Teo, it sounds like you have a reason to be upset, but you have
also not provided enough details and have also scared people away with
the way you have worded things. People shouldn't call you a troll, but
you should be aware of how you are treating others and how they expect
to be treated. I hope you continue to use Ubuntu and help reporting
issues that you run into. People do care about making Ubuntu better.
Personally I have upgraded several times and things have always gone
well. Perhaps if you include more details you could potentially help
people with a fringe case that weren't aware of.
On 12/12/2016 11:13 AM, Dave Morley wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 19:09:22 +0000
Dave Morley <davm...@davmor2.co.uk> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 11:03:08 -0800
Ryein Goddard <ryein.godd...@gmail.com> wrote:
His concern seems valid. Seems like a quality control issue. How
was this possible?
On 12/12/2016 10:39 AM, C de-Avillez wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 03:45:31 -0500
JMZ <florent...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/11/2016 07:12 PM, teo teo wrote:
<snip>
2) sticking to an LTS for 2 f***ing years means sticking to
tremendously obsolete software, usually full of bugs that have
already been fixed upstream (by the way that is usually already
true when the ubuntu release is brand new, let alone two years
later),
<snip>
I know, someone's going to think, "don't feed the troll". Hear
me out. Teo teo's concerns about LTS are not trollish. Users who
elect to run LTS rather than incremental releases must, at some
point, maintain the system with more current debs which
approximate the incremental upgrades. I always follow the
incremental upgrades, as I'd rather fix a version which is
farther along in development than LTS. I never fully understood
why a individual user would use LTS. LTS is better suited to a
circumstance where uniformity is prized, such as small
businesses, corporations, libraries etc. Teo teo is certainly
right that an LTS plan of action has significant deficits.
That might be true (that Teo's concerns may be important).
Nevertheless, s/he behaves in a trollish way, and *intentionally*
has been evading moderation.
S/he is moderated again.
I personally do not care if these concerns are valid or not -- I
stopped reading her/his comments the moment they went to
Trollland.
There are many ways of raising an issue. The way s/he does it is
not acceptable on the Ubuntu ecosystem.
Cheers,
..C..
The upgrades are tested repeatedly, in particular for LTS releases.
The issue her is you can't take into account every piece of hardware
in the world, or every piece of software.
We try upgrades with a mix of data and applications, we try from
default install to default install, we try with none default
applications selected as default instead of the default ones, so we
are pretty much covered.
There are corner cases that we just can't test, for that you report a
bug and it is worked on by developers so it doesn't happen again, the
end.
Oh and upgrades are tested in an automated fashion daily too.
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