I fear there are even more distinctions to be drawn in addition to desktop-server.
I use Ubuntu on both shared and dedicated servers. The shared servers offer special security challenges. I've been working through php security on a shared server and it is a nightmare. The paranoid php.ini is useful as an example of what can be done but without some compromise, PHP websites will break. I have recently worked through conversion from ImageMagick through "system" calls to GD which permitted me to disable several "shell" functions. Preventing users from harmful uploads on a shared server is almost impossible so I am reduced to trying to prevent them from running harmful uploads. I can envision a need for separate channels for shared servers, gateway boxes, fileservers, etc. Jim Tarvid On 3/26/07, Juliano Pillati <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think ubuntu-server channel is essential for a good support for > ubuntu for servers. Becouse mostly people in ubuntu channel use ubuntu > like as kurumin/knoppix etc for your desktop and does not any about > servers. Use linux for change their windows... > > Well, another think to have a ubuntu-server channel is a easy reply > about many questions about hardware. And this quickly answer make a > good vision of ubuntu for servers. > And many company can usu ubuntu as server becouse ubuntu have one > special channel for support to server in irc. Company that I work is a > example. > > And ubuntu channel is very noisy. > > > So, I think is really essential a ubuntu-server channel. And I think > too that if don't have many people for ubuntu-server and there are > questions about development in ubuntu-server, that people can are in > same channel that ubuntu-server. > > So in topic in ubuntu-server can have message like as "Wellcome to > Ubuntu Server and Ubuntu Server Development support." That sentence is > very very amazing. > > I think this becouse mostly people use gnu/linux for server have a > good acknowledge about development, and if is not a good development > can have a opportunity to give good ideas about development. So Ubuntu > server and ubuntu server development are very very liked. > > Well, and have another tip... already pasted : > > Kubuntu and Xubuntu have their support channel, I don't see why > > ubuntu-server shouldn't have. > > I think this essential becouse will be help much people in server with > a ubuntu-server channel. > > I for example: I migrate 50 debian servers (mostly woody and others > sarge) to ubuntu becouse one important point is the ubuntu-server > channel suport. That is very good and I hope have more and more people > (becouse this I told ubuntu-server-dev. can are same channel that > ubuntu-server) using ubuntu-server channel and writing your questions, > answer about server and dev. too. > > > Have a nice day all! > > JP > > > On 3/25/07, Ante Karamatić <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > U Ned, 25. 03. 2007., u 16:17 +0200, Soren Hansen je napisao/la: > > > > > 1) People come there anyway to ask support questions. (Principle of > > > least surprise) > > > > Right. > > > > > 2) The alternative (on IRC) for people seeking support is #ubuntu and > > > although I'm not a regular on #ubuntu, I'm quite sure there would be > > > some benifit in having a dedicated support channel for server related > > > stuff. > > > > Kubuntu and Xubuntu have their support channel, I don't see why > > ubuntu-server shouldn't have. > > > > > 3) There's not a lot of development discussion going on anyway. Any such > > > discussion could easily be moved to #ubuntu-devel, or in case the volume > > > increases, an #ubuntu-server-devel channel could be created. > > > > I think development discussion can stay at ubuntu-server. While most of > > the users at #ubuntu aren't interested in development and 'how things > > work', admin/users of ubuntu-server are mostly interested in that > > development of ubuntu-server. > > > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-server mailing list > > ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server > > > > > -- > Juliano Pillati > -- > ubuntu-server mailing list > ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server > -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server
