On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Len Ovens <l...@ovenwerks.net> wrote:
> > On Fri, July 20, 2012 9:02 pm, C. F. Howlett wrote: > > Desktop Publishing/DTP appears to have been dropped > > from the default menus. I was asked for some font advice and confidently > > went to US to create a quick font catalog only to find no such tools > > available in the default installation. Likewise, the website authoring > > tools appear to have been dropped. I can see dropping the website tools, > > but the DTP tools? In the past, such tools have included Scribus and the > > various font creation and management apps. > > I don't know how clear it is from what is said, but it looks like we will > be moving back in that direction. See item 5 in the quantal blueprint: > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntustudio-q-workflows > > To me even an E-book is the same as any book, it is just distributed > differently. Scott's words were stronger in regard to adding "publishing". > I wouldn't hold your breath for 12.10 though, contributers seem to be > pretty thin over the summer... those left are doing the best we can. I've > waited three weeks trying to get some packages released so we can test > them, but the people are stretched too thin right now. > > I think I have a font manager to add, three yes marks, zero no marks so > far. Could you give me a list of apps for publishing? We need two lists > actually. A minimal list that gives a complete workflow from start to > finish. That is one of each that pulls in the fewest extra depends we can. > I would also like a fuller list that we can set up for easy install for > those who want more. Maybe start with a list of types of apps: Font > manager, font creator, DTP program... etc. There is going to be some over > lap from this to graphics I would think, but publishing seems to be part > of the vision for Ubuntu Studio. Scott, please correct me if or where I'm > wrong. > > Anyway, I think I will mark a part of the desktop seed as DTP stuff to > keep it separate, unless someone gives me permission to start a DTP file > in seeds so we can have a meta for it. At least if it is visibly separate > it should be easy to move out of the desktop into it's own meta (or just > remove if it doesn't work out). They will all be "recommends" so it is > easy to remove unwanted SW and replace it with other Apps. > > -- > Len Ovens > www.OvenWerks.net > > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel > the desktop publishing applications were intentionally removed for 12.04 because i wanted to get back to a small core of exceedingly competent functionality. i had felt that ubuntu studio was trending to become a "software library" where applications were included because it seemed like a good idea rather than based on a well thought out and defined process to accomplish a goal. however, as len has commented i feel very passionate about including them. what we currently lack is competent information about which applications _should_ we include to support user to create content. in audio terms, i wouldn't want to include JACK because "i know it's important and awesome" without including ardour or qtractor; this is only providing a single chain in a tool chain. c.f. howlett, if you have other thoughts, please comment on the list. i am developing several things currently, one is a book and i hope to gain much useful experience as well. i am unsure if my time table will make it for this cycle, but i am sure it will be for the next. scottl
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