Hi! We are not dependent on xubuntu specifically. All the flavors have access to the whole ubuntu repository. Some of our desktop side setup inherits xubuntu packages as we use xfce. If wineasio is available on ubuntu repos, users at least should be able to install it.
Generally the bottom line problem with any of these issues (similar to the earlier comment about cadence, I'd honestly love to see Carla and Godot game engine in repos too) we need someone to package them, for debian or ubuntu. Packaging for debian is a tricky issue. 1) We need people with experience to package these programs. Ideally we should hold a workshop to get more people trained in this sooner than later (I know I was hoping for that when I joined the team but due to various reasons that didn't happen :) ) but none of the programs mentioned above are easy, introduction level cases. 2) Debian requirements can be strict and that can conflict with some features of some of these programs. Also sometimes new software or updates with substantial changes can take a while to get approved as there needs to be a manual review of the submitted packages. (People on mailing list might remember the issue with Krita package) If debian repos is not possible, it is possible to sometimes put things directly into ubuntu repos. This is done on a case by case basis. We could talk to Kubuntu team to learn about details of this procedure as they do maintain a kubuntu repo. I would be willing to help doing communication side of this if someone wants to work on packaging, but especially if we have a repo it means a responsibility and commitment to regularly update and maintain that repo. Do we have people who can commit medium to long term to do this? It won't be a one time task. :) Of course there is also the option of snap packages that can be worth investigating. I hope this is helpful and not discouraging. :) Best Eylul On 04/01/2018 02:48 PM, Thomas Pfundt wrote: > On March 31, 2018 3:07 PM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> wrote: >> Hi >> >> it's probably missing for hysterical raisins. [...] >> I would recommend to test it and to do research how much wanted it >> is by Linux, especially Ubuntu users first. >> >> The more packages you add, the harder it becomes to maintain/test all >> packages. Since Ubuntu Studio suffers from missing manpower [1], >> consider, if making Ubuntu Studio more bloated is a step into the right >> direction. > > Hi all, > > I would suggest that WineASIO is a great way for a lot of people using > Wine-compatible Windows DAWs and standalone VSTis to make them run on their > Linux installation without much hassle in a semi-professional environment. > I've used it myself for a long time after I switched, but from my > understanding, there are only two ways to get a working WineASIO > configuration on Ubuntu Studio: > > 1.) Add the Kxstudio repositories and install their "wine-rt" and "wineasio" > builds. (I believe that those only work in conjunction.) Problem: The > Kxstudio wine-rt build is completely outdated at this point (it was on > version 1.9.x the last time I installed it, the official release is at 3.x > now) and FalkXT, the maintainer of Kxstudio mentioned in some forum post that > the real-time patch became obsolete anyway with the Wine staging branch at > some point. > > 2.) Install wine from the official packages and build WineASIO from the > official Sourceforge. I've never tried this myself, but I've read that there > can be some issues involved with Ubuntu. I haven't bothered to find out > what's the catch, since I switched to Reaper for Linux for my DAW, which is > JACK-compatible and I can work with LinVst to run most of my plugins, but for > someone who is dependent on a certain VST, this could be a problem, if they > are unable to get WineASIO working or just switched and have no idea how to > do so at all. > > IMHO, a way 3 would be desirable: To install a recent version of the regular > Wine build either from the distro's repository or the official packages and > separately "sudo apt install wineasio" and register it to that Wine > installation. I think that's something that most newcomers would be > comfortable doing and the best solution to stay updated. > > If I understand it correctly, Ubuntu Studio is completely dependent on the > regular Xubuntu repository at this point? So, WineASIO would have to be added > as a package to Xubuntu to be available to Ubuntu Studio users for > installation? > > I would be willing to figure out what problems there are in building and > installing WineASIO from the official source and how to use it with the most > recent stable Wine version, however I'm not sure what else is involed in > adding it to the repository (or at least offer some kind of PPA) and could > use some guidance to make the right steps. > > > Kind regards, > Thomas >
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