-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Eric Hedekar schrieb: > On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 12:32 PM, alex stone <compos...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Why can't we make pulse optional in UBStudio? >> >> I understand UBS as an audio specific distro that focuses on >> audio/multimedia production. We use RT, Jack, etc, knowing precisely what >> UBS is designed for. >>
>> Alex. >> > Next, I think it's good to point out in this argument, that UBStudio is NOT > an audio specific distribution - it's a multimedia specific distribution. > Audio users may make up a large portion of the user base, but they're not > the only cats in town. Graphics and Video people benefit greatly from > Pulse. Everything, I repeat: everything Video/Graphics people can possibly want from a Linux Distro, is in the standard (K)(X)UBUNTU. It would be marketing at best to provide a whatsoever "special" distro for people, that only want to cut some movies and design graphics. The one and only relevant reason for a special distro like UBS, CCRMA or JAD is in fact the RT-capability including am optimized Kernel and a proper automagic to configure the system to work with it (limits.conf, timer resolution and firewire-setup). If the latter is not a must-have, UBS would be nothing but a theme(many people dislike) and a set of preinstalled apps (everybody can install with a few clicks in synaptic). > Graphics and Video people benefit greatly from > Pulse. If this is so (I doubt it is...) may it be: there are a lot of UBS-users like me, that prefer XFCE or KDE, Fluxbox etc. instead of GNOME and we all still accept, that GNOME is the standard-desktop for UBS. We simply install whatever DE we like and use the apps and have the benefit of the RT-optimisation as well. But pulse interferes with audio and so it should be removed from UBS, it would be OK with me, if it is installed but I would like to have a simple way to get rid of it. Ubuntu Studio Control should have a switch for that: disable pulseaudio, click, done.... The situation could be different if only the available jackd-plugin for pulse would be installable, the same situation for xinelib. There is NO sane reason not to have these plugins in universe and there is absolutely not the slightest reason not to install these plugins with UBS. Cory has pointed out later on in this thread, that the core-devs do not want the jackd-plugin in pulse, because jackd is not in main - they don't want to cope with that, because they do not care for audio-users, I'd say. The UBS-team should not accept such politics lightly... Anyway I have a Suse11.1 up and running now and thanks to jengelh with the best RT-support I have seen since 64Studio 2.0. I run jackd all the time with 8ms latency, no xruns on a machine on which the recent UBS does not run jackd with less then 40ms. And yes: of course you can install pulse and xinelib with proper jackd-support with a few mouseclicks in Suse. So I will see, how 9.04 improves the situation... best regs HZN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkl88h8ACgkQ1Aecwva1SWMc/ACgkCgkU3v7WXwtWpwKBcQPdxa0 TpsAnA9TGrwnN6svvnHW/z+NETUBgdgg =pd53 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
