On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Hartmut Noack <zettber...@linuxuse.de> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Eric Hedekar schrieb: >> On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 12:32 PM, alex stone <compos...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Why can't we make pulse optional in UBStudio? >>> >>> I understand UBS as an audio specific distro that focuses on >>> audio/multimedia production. We use RT, Jack, etc, knowing precisely what >>> UBS is designed for. >>> > >>> Alex. >>> > >> Next, I think it's good to point out in this argument, that UBStudio is NOT >> an audio specific distribution - it's a multimedia specific distribution. >> Audio users may make up a large portion of the user base, but they're not >> the only cats in town. Graphics and Video people benefit greatly from >> Pulse. > > Everything, I repeat: everything Video/Graphics people can possibly want > from a Linux Distro, is in the standard (K)(X)UBUNTU. It would be > marketing at best to provide a whatsoever "special" distro for people, > that only want to cut some movies and design graphics. > The one and only relevant reason for a special distro like UBS, CCRMA or > JAD is in fact the RT-capability including am optimized Kernel and a > proper automagic to configure the system to work with it (limits.conf, > timer resolution and firewire-setup). > If the latter is not a must-have, UBS would be nothing but a theme(many > people dislike) and a set of preinstalled apps (everybody can install > with a few clicks in synaptic). > >> Graphics and Video people benefit greatly from >> Pulse. > > If this is so (I doubt it is...) may it be: there are a lot of UBS-users > like me, that prefer XFCE or KDE, Fluxbox etc. instead of GNOME and we > all still accept, that GNOME is the standard-desktop for UBS. We simply > install whatever DE we like and use the apps and have the benefit of the > RT-optimisation as well. > But pulse interferes with audio and so it should be removed from UBS, it > would be OK with me, if it is installed but I would like to have a > simple way to get rid of it. Ubuntu Studio Control should have a switch > for that: disable pulseaudio, click, done.... > > The situation could be different if only the available jackd-plugin for > pulse would be installable, the same situation for xinelib. > > There is NO sane reason not to have these plugins in universe and there > is absolutely not the slightest reason not to install these plugins with > UBS. > Cory has pointed out later on in this thread, that the core-devs do not > want the jackd-plugin in pulse, because jackd is not in main - they > don't want to cope with that, because they do not care for audio-users, > I'd say. The UBS-team should not accept such politics lightly... > > Anyway I have a Suse11.1 up and running now and thanks to jengelh with > the best RT-support I have seen since 64Studio 2.0. I run jackd all the > time with 8ms latency, no xruns on a machine on which the recent UBS > does not run jackd with less then 40ms. > And yes: of course you can install pulse and xinelib with proper > jackd-support with a few mouseclicks in Suse. > So I will see, how 9.04 improves the situation... > > best regs > HZN > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iEYEARECAAYFAkl88h8ACgkQ1Aecwva1SWMc/ACgkCgkU3v7WXwtWpwKBcQPdxa0 > TpsAnA9TGrwnN6svvnHW/z+NETUBgdgg > =pd53 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users >
A more effective color management system would be needed prior to making the claim that EVERYTHING needed for graphics was present. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users