On 30.06.2011 19:14, Mike Holstein wrote:
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:44 AM, mentoj dija <mentoj_d...@gmx.de
<mailto:mentoj_d...@gmx.de>> wrote:
well, i'm using ubuntu for 4 years now. but i finally have enough
of it. i'm tiered of updating a hole system after half a year. i
know, that can be helpfull, but its also annoying. and the change
to unity clearly showed me, that its going into a bad direction,
which is not any more focused on the users. in my eyes.
i probably will stay with Ubuntu studio for music production, but
for my daily work, i defenitly will change to debian (testing).
Unfortunately i'm not smart enough to compile a real-time-kernl by
myself. Thats why i have to stay with 10.04 for my studio distro.
you might want to look at something with a rolling release (linux mint
debian edition comes to mind)... personally, i run the LTS version of
ubuntu (LTS = long term support) those are supported for 5 years, and
come around every 2 years. the latest LTS release is lucid 10.04. this
means i do *not* update/upgrade every 6 months.
yes, of course i know about the LTS. but again, i have old versions of
the software then.
unity is just one of the desktop options we have with ubuntu, if it
doesnt meet your needs/wants, check out XFCE, KDE, GNOME or LXDE (or
any of the other options)... this is however the ubuntustudio mailing
list, and we are not planning on shipping the unity DE as default
anytime soon, so you may want redirect your valid critiques of the
unity desktop to the ubuntu desktop team mailing list
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop ... (the
desktop team wiki page : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam )
i know. and i realy like the idea of Ubuntu studio with xfce. I just
think, the unity-thing shows, what ubuntu is going to be. and i just
don't know, if thats the right thing for a studio distro
we have several PPA contributors for -realtime kernel options. very
soon we will not need a different kernel for these tasks. here is the
official word from the debian multimedia team about realtime kernels,
and the lack of one for debian (source
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia#Realtime_kernel )
"The Debian Multimedia team is not working on including a kernel image
with the realtime-patches applied in Debian. Much of the
realtime-patches have been accepted in the mainline kernel, to the
point that for most purposes the stock Debian kernel is suitable even
for realtime-like work."
if you end up using debian, i have heard good things about the
liquorix kernel http://liquorix.net/ , but AFAIK the distro AVlinux
has a custom RT kernel that is available somewhere for download and
can be used with debian.
cheers. i check that out.
all of that being said, you can feel free to get involved in any area
of ubuntu (ubuntustudio for example) and help guide it in the
direction you feel it should go. if that seems like to much to take
on, all of this software is open and freely available.. you can always
make your own distro with whatever desktop environment, and whatever
kernel, and whatever packages you want. AND, you can email this list
with links to where to download and check it out...
yes i know. but i am just a stupid user. i have no idea of programming.
I only love the idea of a free music-production-central. and don't get
me wrong. i am sure, the US-development team is making the right
decisions after all.
woob on!
On 30.06.2011 12:14, Ricardo Lameiro wrote:
Well, ubuntu is based on debian, most of the pacakages used by
ubuntustudio come directly from debian syncs.
Bear in mind that making a distro is hard and needs a lot of
development time and effort.
Also, I dont think that UbuntuStudio will change to debian as its upstream
:D
Just for curiosity, why did you asked about that? what would be the
advantages of moving into debian in your POV?
2011/6/30 mentoj dija<mentoj_d...@gmx.de> <mailto:mentoj_d...@gmx.de>:
hi,
i don't want to cause any war or smth. and a simple NO is answer enough:
but isn't it time to switch to debian to build a studio-distro out of??
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