On 3 May 2011 12:50, David Planella <david.plane...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > El dt 03 de 05 de 2011 a les 10:43 +0100, en/na Matthew East va > escriure: >> > And once more, now that the server guide will only be available online >> > and on PDF, I'd like to bring up the subject of enabling translations on >> > help.ubuntu.com, as otherwise only the English version will be >> > available. Translators and LoCos keep asking for this, and I'll be more >> > than happy to help in anything I can in that regard. >> >> Each time we discuss this it seems to stall. I've repeatedly set out >> my reasons why I think that local team websites should be encouraged >> to provide localised help rather than help.ubuntu.com, and I've >> repeatedly said that I'm interested in hearing what translators and >> local team leaders think about it - but the discussion never seems to >> get further than that. See for example: >> > > Translators: we've talked about it at UDS and on the list in the past. > May I ask those of you who'd like to see a localized help.ubuntu.com > instead of having localized team websites to host the localized content > state your reasons on this thread? > > This will be very useful in bringing the discussion forward.
Actually, it would be better as a separate thread. It's a bit off-topic for this one. I'm changing the subject here accordingly. >> The last time we discussed it, I noted that there was a specification >> in the ubuntu-website project to develop an auto-redirection solution >> for www.ubuntu.com which offers users a link to the local team website >> in their language. If that solution were implemented for >> www.ubuntu.com, I think it would be sensible to use it for >> help.ubuntu.com too. >> > > I'm not very happy with a redirection vs. a full localization solution. > As far as I know, that redirection project is now stalled. Perhaps it needs to be rejuvenated... Could you also provide your reasons or counter-arguments as to why you prefer a full localization solution? >> Various references to previous discussions. >> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2010-May/014775.html >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2010-May/014782.html >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2010-September/015159.html >> >> Would you be willing to prepare a specification setting out the pros >> and cons of the idea and starting a(nother) discussion about it? If >> the solution is to implement some technology on help.ubuntu.com that >> points users to a local website, would someone be interested in >> working on this? >> > > My idea was to simply enable localized content on the current site (I > guess it's an apache server just serving html pages?). I'll be happy to > prepare a spec on this or on a more sophisticated approach, but I want > to set up expectations: due to changes in the work I'm going to do this > cycle (more on this on a separate thread), while I'd be able to help, I > won't probably be able to drive the full spec implementation unless > someone steps up to help. Also, if I prepare a specification and a UDS > session, I'd like to know if at least someone from the docs team would > be able to participate in the session. The technology of enabling localized content on the current site is very easy. It would be more difficult to enable the auto-detection and localised link solution. However we need to get to the bottom of which is the best solution for users, regardless of how difficult it is to achieve that. -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators