For what it's worth, I have used ZamZar's URL option (http://www.zamzar.com) to 
download a few YouTube videos in MPEG format.  Again, this would be browser 
(and OS) independent.

>> Try http://keepvid.com/
>> with the URL http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4285568518538296189
>> 
>> It's downloading for me 90 megs so it'll be a while before I can check 
>> the quality.
>
> ah - I tried keepvid (yesterday) but it would not work, maybe it was 
> busy or something. It is actually connecting now.
> This would be independent of any browser (Firefox) cache parameters 
> presumably.

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