Having spoken to Lenovo, i am rather unsatisfied.

Their story is that they don't know why the windows client won't work.
They also suggest that i use the live CD as a means for updating the
BIOS - this is the recommended method. Unbelievably (to my mind, at
least), they only have instructions for this using a CD. This is
currently hopeless for me as i have a thinkpad x121e which has no
optical drive, and i don't have an external drive on me. They say that
they can't provide me with any instructions on how to update the BIOS
using a USB as these are not officially supported. As such they say
that the only thing they can do is send the machine in to them - which
will take about 5 days.

As background to this story i should note that i have had these same
acpi-related problems on two other occasions. Both times i have sent
the machine in to them and the (exact same) problem has recurred  This
will be the third time i send in the machine. The first time this
happened it was under international warranty and it took 3 weeks to
fix. That means that in the 10 months i have had the machine it will
have spent over a month in the shop, dealing with a recurrent problem.

I really am rather disappointed, especially as Lenovo's thinkpad range
is meant to be pretty good for linux and have pretty good support in
general.

j

On 18 July 2012 09:09, James Morrissey <morrissey.jam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Anton,
>
> -contacting lenovo about that matter may be a good starting point
>
> I'll be on it when they open this morning.
>
> However having a quick look
>> (choosing a lenovo x121e on the site) and going through the 6 step process
>> to select the OS (chose win7) it comes back with a "bios update bootable cd
>> iso"-have you tried that method?
>
> That's what i am trying to do! I can't get a bootloader onto the USB.
> As i understand, this is what i have to do as the ISO doesn't contain
> one. Someone please tell me if i am wrong.
>
> also the lenovo site
>> cautions against updating it (in the readme.txt along with the files) if it
>> is running fine
>
> Its not running fine: I have lost use of function keys, fan has
> stopped working and shutdown on lid close doesn't work.
>
> Something to research/ask potentially- if for some reason
>> the windows update method (from within win7 that failed on you) doesnt like
>> grub or something like that isnt there an easy way to delete grub (backing
>> it up first), hence fooling the system that it is only a single boot and
>> then running the update? after that booting from a live cd and reinstalling
>> grub???
>
> This looks tricky. I'll save it for a last resort, but surely i should
> be able to get a bootloader onto the USB so that i can run the update
> from there.
>
> Will let you know what Lenovo say.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> j
>
> On 18 July 2012 07:25, Anton Kanishchev <antonk20...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi James,
>>
>> I have had a chat with my friend regarding updating the bios on a dual boot.
>> what model of thinkpad do you have? He has never had to go through grub4dos
>> to update his, so unfortunately he cant help there.He has updated dual boot
>> setups via windows as you mentioned in your first email(worked in his
>> case)-contacting lenovo about that matter may be a good starting point.It
>> may just be a corrupt file or something. However having a quick look
>> (choosing a lenovo x121e on the site) and going through the 6 step process
>> to select the OS (chose win7) it comes back with a "bios update bootable cd
>> iso"-have you tried that method? Since it is booting from the cd (please
>> correct me someone if the following is wrong) it doesnt really matter if it
>> is a multi boot set up or not as it is only taking files from the bootable
>> cd and updating the bios on the laptop. if you do (have) download(ed) the
>> bios disk is there a md5sum you can check for errors? also the lenovo site
>> cautions against updating it (in the readme.txt along with the files) if it
>> is running fine. Something to research/ask potentially- if for some reason
>> the windows update method (from within win7 that failed on you) doesnt like
>> grub or something like that isnt there an easy way to delete grub (backing
>> it up first), hence fooling the system that it is only a single boot and
>> then running the update? after that booting from a live cd and reinstalling
>> grub???
>>
>> On 17 July 2012 21:50, Kris Douglas <krisdoug...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 17 July 2012 21:07, James Morrissey <morrissey.jam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > Digging up an old thread as i am still trying to solve this problem.
>>> > Hoping someone can help me update my BIOS from a live USB.
>>> >
>>> > After having these problems come back
>>> > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12106970#post12106970; i got
>>> > the reply which falls at the bottom of the thread.
>>> >
>>> > So i am now trying to update my BIOS, from 1.15 to 1.16.
>>> >
>>> > Having tried to use the native windows client as i did last time my
>>> > machine remains on 1.15. Getting the files for the 1.16 from here:
>>> > http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/downloads/default.page? and following
>>> > the instructions here:
>>> > http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles/8quj09us.txt, i
>>> > don't get any on-screen instructions for step 14("Select 'Update
>>> > ThinkPad BIOS' and follow the instructions on the screen.") and when i
>>> > check system information in Win7 i still see the BIOS are 1.15.
>>> >
>>> > So now i am trying to follow the instructions for creating a live ISO
>>> > contained here:
>>> >
>>> > http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/BIOS_Upgrade#Using_grub4dos_.28also_for_Linux.29.
>>> > My sense is that it would also be good to learn how to do this update
>>> > without windows.
>>> >
>>> > So now:
>>> >
>>> > I have formatted my pen drive to FAT32.
>>> >
>>> > sudo fdisk -l gives:
>>> >
>>> >    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
>>> > /dev/sda1   *        2048     2459647     1228800    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
>>> > /dev/sda2         2459648   109043711    53292032    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
>>> > /dev/sda3       109045758   625141759   258048001    5  Extended
>>> > /dev/sda5       109045760   608542719   249748480   83  Linux
>>> > /dev/sda6       608544768   625141759     8298496   82  Linux swap /
>>> > Solaris
>>> >
>>> > Disk /dev/sdc: 4011 MB, 4011851776 bytes
>>> > 124 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1019 cylinders, total 7835648 sectors
>>> > Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
>>> > Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
>>> > I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
>>> > Disk identifier: 0x0004629e
>>> >
>>> >    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
>>> > /dev/sdc1   *          62     7834071     3917005    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Following the instruction on grub4dos
>>> >
>>> > (http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/BIOS_Upgrade#Using_grub4dos_.28also_for_Linux.29),
>>> > i navigate the terminal, to the gub4dos-0.4.4 folder and try:
>>> >
>>> > ~/grub4dos-0.4.4$sudo ./bootlace.com /dev/sdc1
>>> >
>>> > But i get the error:
>>> >
>>> > "Error: Invalid partition table. Must specify --floppy explicitly for
>>> > floppy.
>>> > BOOTLACE writes GRLDR BOOT RECORD to MBR or to the boot area of a file
>>> > system.
>>> > Usage:  bootlace.com  [OPTIONS]  DEVICE_OR_FILE
>>> > Options: --read-only, --floppy[=N], --boot-prevmbr-first,
>>> > --boot-prevmbr-last,
>>> > --no-backup-mbr, --force-backup-mbr, --mbr-enable-floppy,
>>> > --mbr-disable-floppy,
>>> > --mbr-enable-osbr, --mbr-disable-osbr, --duce, --time-out=T,
>>> > --hot-key=K,
>>> > --preferred-drive=D, --preferred-partition=P, --sectors-per-track=S,
>>> > --heads=H,
>>> > --start-sector=B, --total-sectors=C, --install-partition=I, --lba,
>>> > --chs,
>>> > --fat12, --fat16, --fat32, --vfat, --ntfs, --ext2, --serial-number=SN,
>>> > --restore-mbr, --mbr-no-bpb, --chs-no-tune
>>> > DEVICE_OR_FILE: Filename of the device or image. For DOS, a BIOS drive
>>> > number
>>> > (in hex 0xHH or decimal DDD format)can be used to access the drive."
>>> >
>>> > I see that someone
>>> > (http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1163031.html) has
>>> > suggested that the command should be: sudo
>>> > /boot/Grub4DOS/stage2/bootlace.com --floppy=7 /dev/sdb7, but since i
>>> > am worried about wiping my whole hard disk i am worried about
>>> > experimenting (i don't want "sudo /boot/Grub4DOS/stage2/bootlace.com
>>> > --floppy=1 /dev/sdc1" to write to sda1 as opposed to sdc1).
>>> >
>>> > I have been overwhelmed by the grub4dos readme file, so if anyone as
>>> > any ideas on either 1) how to get grub4dos working, or 2) how i make a
>>> > live usb from the Lenovo ISO to update my BIOS, i'd appreciate it.
>>> >
>>> > Sorry for the long and complicated issue.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> >
>>> > j
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 31 January 2012 21:32, James Morrissey <morrissey.jam...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >> Thanks for all the help on this.
>>> >>
>>> >> I ended up using the windows utility and the whole process was
>>> >> painless. Instructions were here:
>>> >> http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles/8quj08us.txt
>>> >>
>>> >>> I've just had a look at BIOS updates for my Thinkpad Edge 11 and
>>> >>> they're
>>> >>> delivered as a bootable CD so there will presumably be a similar
>>> >>> option for
>>> >>> the Thinkpad X121e.
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >> Yes, one is available here:
>>> >> http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/downloads/detail.page?DocID=DS019251,
>>> >> but the windows route seemed easier.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks again.
>>> >>
>>>
>>> Hello, did you try running the bios flash utility as administrator on
>>> windows by explicitly right-clicking it. That's always a good way for
>>> it to fail.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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