Brother Semakula,
 
Did Obote go to the HRM the queen of England to plead for arms? Before that Buganda had long used guns to gain the Bunyoro Land what later became the lost counties,  hence the quest for arms from the queen to gain back the land!!!
 
Yours i pathological!! give it a break, you migh actually go awii with Obotes name playing in your head and mouth!!. Good luck remember the same god is for you and Obote.
 
Toro.  
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 5:26 PM
Subject: RE: ugnet_: Ibingira on Obote's Secret Wars and Abuse of Office

Mr. Y:
 
It is plain as day that Uganda's troubles today are firmly rooted in Obote's abuse of power and office. It was the UPC and Obote who started Uganda on the path of political murder and state inspired violence against the populace.
 
Until and unless we not only accept that simple but fundamental truth, and throught understand how and why it came to be, we cannot hope to solve our most basic problems as a nation:  lack of democratic governance and lack of respect & protection of human rights in Uganda.  Only when those two things are in place can we meaningfully tackle our second-tier problems of poverty, ignorance, etc.
 
For those reasons, I will not "give it a rest". Of course you can always hide your head in the sand as the proverbial ostrich, but reality will not change to accomodate your wishes.
 
Ssemakula
 
 
--- Y Yaobang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> J Ssemakula,
>
> Give it a rest, man!
>
> Or are you getting paid to divert attention from
> what is happening in Uganda
> right now, as we speak, with:
> *  Dictator Museveni's gunships mowing down innocent
> Ugandans in a funeral
> procession in Teso "mistaking" them for 'rebels'?
> * Dictator Museveni now manipulating his way to life
> presidency,
> sugar-coating it with federo (buying-off gullible
> Baganda like you)??
>
> Or are you waiting to revise the dictaor's history?
>
>
> y
> >From: "J Ssemakula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> & gt;Subject: RE: ugnet_: Ibingira on Obote's Secret
> Wars and Abuse of Office
> >Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 19:50:42 +0000
> >
>
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> ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822
> From: "J Ssemakula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: ugnet_: Ibingira on Obote's Secret Wars
> and Abuse of Office
> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 19:50:42 +0000
>
---------------------------------
Mr. Kipenji,
 
Provide facts: if you have any credible documentation about Obote providing  Mandela with a passport by all means provide it, instead of grand-standing. 
 
However, even if it were true, I fail to see how this would redeem that barbarian.
 
--- Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mwaami Ssemakula,did Nelson Mandela also state that
> the first
> travel document(Passport) that he used to travel
> outside South
> Africa et Africa was a Ugandan passport that was
> recommended
> by this samesome Obote?.
> Lets always talk facts not figments of our
> imaginations that obscure
> whatever we really want to say for we are wont to
> expose our rabid loathe
> of someone.
> Thanks.
> Kipenji.
> ===========================================================
>
> J Ssemakula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Mr. Fugee,
>
> I see that you have no substantive rebuttal to Mr.
> Ibingira's expose' of Obote as a conniving
> power-hungry megalomaniac.
>
> As fo r t he bit about Obote's attempts to bar the ANC
> from the OAU's pre-cursor, it is from an impeachabe
> source: Mr. Mandela himself.
>
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "The Fugee"
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To:
> Subject: RE: ugnet_: Ibingira on Obote's Secret Wars
> and Abuse of Office
> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 10:33:52 +0200
>
> Ssemakula,
>
> Many of us have decided to leave you to your rabid
> hatred of Obote. You
> seem to be so confused by your hatred that you would
> absolve everyone,
> including yourself, of any responsibility in
> ensuring that Ugandans and
> Uganda gets what it truly deserves. As such I find
> it very difficult to
> even begin to discuss or debate any matter as you
> have concluded where
> all blame should lie. Th ou gh I must confess that I
> have seriously
> thought about tackling an issue raised by you
> through Ibingira's
> writings and time willing I may still do so.
>
> The real question is: What have you done and what
> are you doing for a
> truly democratic Uganda where all citizens have and
> can enjoy their God
> given personal to holder fundamental human rights
> and freedoms?
>
> The Fugee
>
> PS "Why did he try to have Mandela and the ANC --
> which he termed a
> "tribal organization" -- banned from attending the
> OAU's precursor
> meeting in Addis Ababa? Who were/are Obote's masters
> whose interests he
> worked so hard to uphold?"
> Where did this come from?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> J Ssemakula
> Sent: 15 August 2003 21:25
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ugnet_: Ibingira on Obote's Secret Wars
> and Abuse of Office
>
> Is it safe to assume that even the UPC zealots have
> finally seen the
> light that power-hungry megalomaniacal Obote was and
> is a liability?
>
> Is there any doubt that Obote single-handedly set
> Uganda on the course
> of decay that it has never recovered from?
> Where the heck is Mr. Dambisya's promised
> (threatened?) defense of
> Obote?
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "J Ssemakula"
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: ugnet_: Ibingira on Obote's Secret Wars and
> Abuse of Office
> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 20:15:51 +0000
>
>

 


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