Mr. Musaazi:
I doubt that these people have ever heard of "Do unto others ...". But now that the shoe is on the other foot and they are at each other's throat I wonder who the next scapegoat will be.
Nonetheless, I hope that someday they'll learn a simple lesson: you can not eat your cake and have it too. In this case, you can support Kony, even covertly, and expect our sympathy at the same time.
If they would pass an unequivocal statement dissociating themselves from Kony, and if Obote -- who, by the way, introduced concentration camps to Uganda -- were to issue a statement aknowledging responsibility for the Luweero Triangle killings, Panda Gari, etc and ask for forgiveness for these and other crimes against the people of Uganda, perhaps one might be convinced to take the trouble of signing petitions, etc.
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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 16:48:16 -0500
So you are suggesting then, that what is happening in the north can be dismissed as a simple occurance in history which no one has to be accountable for. I hope your pals are listening...then you should all stop accusing southerners of not being concerned enough for what is happening in the north. You are the same guys who come onto this forum lamenting about how the rest of the country does not seem to care, how you want justice for the north, how President Museveni should be prosecuted and all sorts of bull, yet all silent on Kony and the LRA, who are directly responsible for the killings. If really the LRA was part of the UPDF, how come no southerner has ever been caught or associated with LRA, many former members have surrendered or sought amnesty over many years and not one has ever been a southerner and not one of the former rebels has ever made a southern connection, yet majority of UPDF troops fighting and dying to keep the north safe are southerners. Your
theory of UPDF = LRA, seems to some how suggest that President Museveni has succeeded in some how convincing Acholis and Langis to kill each other, through some magic....so silly. You don't think a known killer like Obote did anything wrong, someone who's exploits are well documented world wide. At the same time you are blaming President Museveni for the killings of one of your own (Kony). Kony is going to be defeated and then what will you accuse the the president of next i wonder. I want to see how you will make case for President Museveni to be prosecuted, while Obote is left untouched. This is the type of petty politics that UPC is good at and sympotmatic of a party led by a con man (Obote), even people who should know better, like Rwanyarare and Okumu are all being made to look like fools. UPC has no vision, no originality, there aim is to take power by creating animosity between ethnic groups, that is how Obote thrives, he thrives in comotion/caos. You can see his hady
work in the way the party is run. Shame, Shame!!!
>From: Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re: [FedsNet] UPC on Federalism
>Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:14:29 +0000 (GMT)
>
>You do not need to waste your valuable time honing a stone to
>extract blood from it.That need no gainsaying.
>Apologizing is mere conglomeration of words that may have remorse
>gleaned from otherwise can be easily taken as a misquote.
>On that note,what would you prefer,mere words that can be taken as
>a misquote by the press or one who turns backwards to eat the humble
>pie that (s)he discovers was taken way unfairly?.
>If the UPC as a party now sees that what happened in 1964-66 was not
>good and are for a restitution,why should thus bother you?.If you
>are not
>mentally prepared for that,then allow us to open the pandora box
>that is
>littered everywhere regarding the deeds of the descendants of Kabaka
>Bemba and his followers.Then we shall all have to start from a clean
>slate.
>Everyone is allowed to hold whatever views they have on any
>organization,political or otherwise but we should not peddle those
>views as the views of the ethnic groups we belong to.
>Thank you.
>Kipenji.
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>J Ssemakula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>Mr. Musaazi:
>
>Unless you are a magician, you cann't get blood from a stone or a
>turnip. That is precisely what you are attempting by asking for
>remorse from Mr. Kipenji.
>
>According to his logic, since there were so many Nazi's in Hitler's
>Germany, whatever atrocities they committed are OK, and are the
>norm.
>
>It is a fact that the UPC massacred and brutalized us time and
>again. Now Mr. Kipenji and his cohorts think that Obote is only a
>gorilla in my dreams, and that I must be full of hate since I cannot
>somehow cuddle up UPC. I'd sooner sleep in a pit full of black
>mambas than knowingly have anything to do with the UPC. That is just
>the way it is, warts and all ...
>
>
>
>
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>From: "emmanuel musaazi"
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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re: [FedsNet] UPC on Federalism
>Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 11:19:35 -0500
>
>...and Mr. Kipenji, your lack of remorse for the attrocities
>commited by the UPC and it's henchmen under the leadership of Obote
>does not help situations either. If there is to be national healing
>in Uganda on the political scene, then let those who cast the first
>stone apologise and show some remorse first afterall what is good
>for the gender is good for the goose. This is what i have been
>saying, about the UPC making a clean break with there ghoulish past.
>As long as they don't do that then they will continue to be viewed
>as a party of the past and not many Ugandans relish the past
>particularly in Buganda. All these unsolicitated overtures to the
>Kabaka and Buganda, are useless and infact should be viewed as an
>insult. As a matter of fact i expect that the overtures will have
>the reverse effect of solidifying Buganda's support for the
>President. Believe me if the Kabaka endorses the UPC he will be
>doing so at his peril.
>
>
> >From: Owor Kipenji
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re: [FedsNet] UPC on Federalism
> >Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 23:11:59 +0000 (GMT)
> >
> >Mwaami Ssemakula,often times a wiseman benefits most from
> >his enemies that a fool from his friends.
> >I really do not know where I can exactly place your line of
>argument
> >especially so when it is apparent emotions and bile/gall are the
> >force
> >virtigo behind your outbursts.
> >Do not think this type of vitriol will somehow help you as an
>ardent
> >supporter of Federalism achieve that goal when inwardly you
>portend
> >pernicious hatred of an Organization that has many followers and
> >worst
> >of all that was started by one of your own kith and kin.
> >Milton Obote should never be the bogey for your hatred of UPC for
> >like DP and other political Organizations they have membership
>that
> >encompass all Ugandans.
> >I do believe we need to put out our emotions in trying to find
> >political solutions to Uganda's problems.
> >Your purview to these problems unfortunately is a permanent
>solution
> >to short term problems.
> >Your support or lack thereof for the atrocities Mu7 and his
>henchmen
> >have committed against the silent majority of Ugandas(minus
>Baganda/
> >Banyakore/Kiga etc) is at variance with your outbursts so please
> >stop
> >justifying whatever your position is for in the realm of what you
> >say,nobody except you benefits from it.
> >Thank you.
> >Kipenji.
> >==============================================================
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