Kasangwawo
If you can prove to the forum that you were in Uganda later than I came back
I will put 500 Canadian Dollars in the Federalism pot. Where do you want my
passport which has the exit date?
Let us cut the Baganda crap for once in this life-time.
Em
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message -----
From: "jonah kasangwawo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 10:08 AM
Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin
> this is the talk of someone who hasn't been in Uganda for donkey's years !
>
>
> >From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin
> >Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 09:41:40 -0500
> >
> >Buganda can never move ahead again until when Uganda gets a nationalistic
> >president as Obote, who develops all Uganda areas equally. Does Uganda
have
> >a chance to get such a leader again today? No not on a nation which has
> >Ssebagala as the best out there to look at. The developments in Buganda
> >including Hospitals, Schools, job creation on and on stopped at the exit
of
> >Obote from Uganda politics. One can not help but wonder how Buganda has
> >even failed to clear her own roads of Bulungi Bwansi, a project they
would
> >even do by their own hoes. What value is Mengo?
> >Em
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Lisa Toro
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 7:20 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Ugandacom] Re: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin
> >
> >
> > Rehema Mukooza .
> >
> > Present me the evidence, that is how some of you Bagandans conieved
> >with Museveni in Killing you own Kayirra in the name of elections were
> >rigged! you are so blind that you only sport a goat from a far and not
see
> >an hayena at your foot !!! . The Baganda peasantry should takes control
and
> >su[pport of thier Kingdom and destiny rather than leaving it to some of
> >this opportunists beatting thier seasonal drums to any order of the day
and
> >claiming latter they are not part of it.
> >
> > Your are squarely responsible for impossing Museveni and the NRA/M
> >killers on Banganda and Ugandans with all the blood let, take
> >responsiblility. The sooner the kingdom and the peasantry weed out these
> >flees the sooner Buganda and Uganda will move a head.
> >
> > Toro
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Rehema Mukooza
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 4:31 AM
> > Subject: [Ugandacom] Re: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin
> >
> >
> > Toro:
> >
> > Some of you including Obote have never always meant well for the
> >future of Uganda. What is the future of Uganda?? May I ask? Obote has
> >never worked for the future of democracy in Uganda. He banned political
> >parties and ridged elections. I want you to be sensible enough to
> >acknowledge that. Do not let your imagination run wild!
> >
> > Museveni and his NRA are thugs and murderers, any sensible person
> >knows that. There is nothing new you are informing me about the dictator
> >in charge today!
> >
> > What "future holes" am I digging by speaking the truth about Obote??
> >What actually do you mean by that?? Should I take the "future holes" for
a
> >future revenge against Buganda and her Kingdom?? I personaly, think that
> >this kind of garbage you are blutting out is indeed a product of denial
and
> >lack of focus on real issues.
> >
> > If you knew better than you know now, you would find out who is
> >truelly digging the future holes you are talking about. He is none other
> >than the thug, Museveni! He has made enemies out of our neighbors
> >surrounding Uganda and in Uganda. Blame Museveni, do not even start with
> >me, or Buganda and her Kabaka.
> >
> > Now, let me teach you about some things in history and life as in
> >general. The colonialist or imperialists came to Buganda with their big
> >guns and shit. Buganda had no choice but to work with these armed
> >imperialists because they possed a real, dangerous threat to our
> >ancenstors.
> >
> > Survival 101; you've got to work with the enemy whether you like it
or
> >not. Buganda was not ready to sacrifice itself to be slaughtered by the
> >colonialists, as they did to Native Americans and Zulus. There is more
to
> >life than acting as sacrifices to invaders. This should explain to you
why
> >Buganda hosts the largest single tribe/nation in Uganda. Human
sacrifices
> >have never worked for critical thinkers! Self preservation is the only
way
> >to allow the continuity of humanity.
> >
> > Luweero massacres. This mad man Museveni is no different from the
> >colonialists. You get in his way, he slaughters you without any mercy.
He
> >did the same in Luweero, were civilians were caught in between Obote's
> >brutal forceful gov't and the NRA rebels. Obote forced the civilians to
> >turn against the NRA rebels by killing and brutalizing them (civilians).
> >This murderer Museveni saw the civilians as people who were getting in
his
> >way, so he ordered for their slaughter. Up to now, Luwero people want
> >Museveni to pay for their financial losses (including blood) by
financially
> >supporting the living since the dead are already dead. Money can not pay
> >for a life, but the living have got to continue living. Living is
> >supported by money, you go and figure this one out.
> >
> > Ever since Buganda witnessed both Obote and Museveni's murderous
> >nature, we decided to go back on survival 101; you've got to work with
the
> >enemy whether you like it or not! You can call Buganda names like Uganda
> >sellers etc, but that does not change the fact that Obote murdered
people.
> >
> > Once again, Buganda is to play her part. Buganda can not avoid
> >interacting with presidents in power. Buganda's capital is Uganda's
> >capital city. How can they avoid each other?? You can slip into
fantasia
> >but I'll not go with you. The colonialists could not avoid interacting
> >with Buganda, the dictators of Uganda can not either.
> >
> > My dear, I want to bring you back to reality. GOD WILL NOT STOP THEM
> >(murderer Mu7). Let us bring back federalism in Uganda and empower
regions
> >to make decisions on their security matters. Under this unitary system,
> >the central gov't will continue to declare some northern regions not
> >disaster areas. Yet in a federal system, the Acholi or Lango states can
> >declare their areas, disaster regions and protect themselves. Today, the
> >Arrow/Amuka boys are not paid for their services and they why they lack
> >moral. Under federalism, the states of Acholi and Lango can easily pay
the
> >Arrow/Amuka boys because these states can actually collect taxes and
boost
> >their security.
> >
> > Lisa, come up with better cases! This business of you wishing on
God
> >to come down and make a miracle, yet God gave humans power to decide over
> >their destiny is indeed foolish! Wake up! Support Federalism for All!
> >And let me remind you that Obote killed federalism, we need to start from
> >scratch now.
> >
> > Zakoomu R.
> >
> > Lisa Toro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yaobang and others,
> >
> > How many cows did the Misevenis and NRA take from Dr. Obote's home
> >when they killed his frail father? How many did they takes from Obote's
> >relatives and indeed the whole area plus district!. You will be more
stupid
> >to say it is 25 Cows. Infact they are harrassing and intimidating the
> >Obotes brother then shout that they gave 25 blood cows! Those NRM
vultures
> >NEVER GET ENOUGH, ONLY GOD WILL STOP THEM.
> >
> > Rehema Mukooza whatever garbage you are talking about, some of
us
> >including Obote have always mean well for the future of Ugandans but your
> >are busy digging future holes! But then again Ugandan sellers have always
> >perferred to work with colonialist , imperialist etc etc and once more
they
> >have to keep the system going.
> >
> > Toro
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Rehema Mukooza
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 5:50 AM
> > Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin
> >
> >
> > Yaobang,
> >
> > Buying Obote for what?? Obote can not function at his age! He
is
> >of no use to any thinking Ugandan who is looking forward to the future.
> >The Kabaka will never be "bought"; he stays, president after president.
> >Who ever thinks so, is indeed misguided and misinformed, like Obote. You
> >can never ever buy a Kabaka.
> >
> > Obote tried it once, when he offered money to the Ankole,
Bunyoro,
> >Tooro, and Busoga monarchies in order to ban them real good, but the
Kabaka
> >of Buganda refused and he was exiled. Obote even wanted to chose who
among
> >the princes should take over after Kabaka Muteesa was exiled. Wrong
> >decision - Poor, stupid, Obote!
> >
> > My advice to the anti-Kabaka camps is that, the monarchy of
> >Buganda shall exist no matter what. The monarchy has already proved
> >resilient towards blows (Obote, Amin). People, ya'll better use that
> >energy of yours on something else and leave the Kabaka alone. The Kabaka
> >has us regular folks to back him up no matter what. That is how strong
an
> >alliagence can be to our King(s), present and future.
> >
> > Some politicians like Obote, Museveni might think that they are
> >"buying" the Kabaka, but in reality they are to move out and our Prince
> >(Kabaka) is to stay in. A monarchy is a monarchy, unlike seasonal
> >political leadership i.e Obote, Mu7. Mr. Yaobang, come up with a better
> >example of folks being 'bought' by cows or money. I don't know why you
> >people don't understand that Buganda and her Kabakaship are
inseparatable.
> >"Buying" something that will never go away, that has always existed is a
> >sick example of how some Ugandans will never get it.
> >
> > Zakoomu R.
> >
> > Y Yaobang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > J Ssemakula,
> >
> > Unlike your Kabaka, Obote cannot be bought with 25 cows, or
any
> >other bribe!
> >
> > y
> >
> > >From: "J Ssemakula"
> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin
> > >Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 01:59:09 +0000
> > >
> >
> >
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> > > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822
> > From: "J Ssemakula"
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin
> > Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 01:59:09 +0000
> >
> >
> > Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin
> >
> > By Patrick Opio
> >
> > PRESIDENT Yoweri Museveni has donated 25 heifers to the family
> >of exiled former president Milton Obote's brother, Obadiah Akaki.
> >
> > Akaki, 80, Obote's elder brother said he received the cows
> >through state minister for wildlife and antiquities Jovino Akaki-Ayumu,
his
> >clansman.
> >
> > He said in an interview at his home at Abeibuti village,
Akokoro
> >sub-county, Apac, recently that the cattle provide him with plenty of
milk.
> >
> > He said he supplies the milk to the local community for money.
> >
> > "My family now harvests a good amount of milk daily. We
consume
> >part of it and sell the rest to people in the neighbourhood," he said.
> >
> > Museveni gave Akaki sh10m when he visited his home in
September
> >9, 2000.
> >
> > He then promised to donate heifers for milk production to the
> >family.
> >
> > Akaki said Museveni sent drugs for the animals. He said the
> >district veterinary officers help him control vectors such as tsetse
flies
> >and ticks by reg ularly spraying and dipping the animals.
> >
> > He praised minister Akaki-Ayumu for linking him with Museveni.
> >
> > "With Akaki's efforts, Museveni was able to visit us and
> >consequently donated money and cattle to the family," Obadiah said.
> > Ends
> >
> > Published on: Thursday, 4th March, 2004
> >
> >
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