George:
No doubt we must most definately hold  dictators in Africa responsible for our suffering... Indeed some of us will not stop there ..we shall also hold  imperalist forces responsible  for the role they have played  in supporting African Dictators like Museveni, Mobutu, Kagame,  e.t.c  .  By supporting  our oppressor,  the west is  showing it's true colours; that of hating  the African people.
 
Peace.

"George B.N. Ayittey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Nyatsimba,

I was so enraged by what you wrote below I did not know what to do with
myself. It is this kind of DYSFUNCTIONAL LOGIC that is partly
responsible for the mess Africa finds itself today. When the HELL are we
going to hold African leaders DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for the  crimes and
atrocities they perpetrate against their own people? When the HELL are
we going to?

Time and time again, we drag in the West and make it the SCAPEGOAT,
exonerating the brutal African leaders:

1. It was NOT Mobutu's fault. It was the CIA and the West that propped
him up.

2. It was the World Bank, IMF, etc. which provided Mobutu with all the
loans to buy weapons to oppress his people.

The clear implication here being that Mobutu himself had no idea what he
was doing. He was on acting upon INSTRUCTIONS given to him by the World
Bank, IMF, and the CIA. Such nonsense.

By this sort of decrepit logic, Sani Abacha of Nigeria had no idea what
he was doing. He got his instructions from the CIA, the World Bank, the
IMF. Neither did Idi Amin; nor Mugabe and Mengistu Haile Mariam. All
these leaders were baboons and didn't know what they were doing. They
were all acting upon instructions they received from the CIA, KGB,
MOSSAD (the Israeli Spy agency).

These leaders KNOW what they are doing when they:

1. Crush the skulls of opposition leaders,
2. Shut down newspapers that are critical of them,
3. Order their security agents, militias and "Green Bombers" to beat up
or open fire on peaceful demonstrators.
4. Loot the national treasury for deposit in Swiss banks.
5. Declare themselves "presidents-for-life"
6. Allow their schools, roads, and infrastructure to crumble.

The FIRST STEP in pulling Africa out of its current economic miasma is
to hold its leaders ACCOUNTABLE, not exonerate them by blaming the CIA,
the KGB or XOKIX (the spy agency on JUPITER!) for the crimes and
atrocities these leaders commit against their people. It is the HIPPO
generation who are adamantly stuck to the flawed old way of thinking.

George Ayittey,
Washington, DC




Interesting article:

"In recent years U.S. policy has stressed the need for good governance
in Africa. Most Africans view this as a
supreme irony given Washington�s quarter-century of active support for
Africa�s most notorious and
antidemocratic ruling crook, Mobutu. Between 1962 and 1991, the U.S.
directly supported Mobutu (with
close to $150 million in CIA bribes and secret payments) and his
government (with more than $1.03 billion
in development aid and $227.4 million in military assistance). It even
provided transport for foreign troops
used to suppress anti-Mobutu rebellions in 1977 and 1978.

The U .S. also helped funnel World Bank loans and IMF credits to Mobutu�s
government, even though
internal documents reveal that these agencies knew in advance the money
was likely to be stolen and the
loans unlikely to be repaid. Mobutu used IMF and World Bank loans to
repay Zaire�s private creditors,
thereby transforming private debt into public debt now amounting to
almost $14 billion.

Mobutu reciprocated by providing bases and supply routes for UNITA
rebels and by backing the U.S. in
various arenas. For instance, as chair of the UN Security Council in the
months immediately prior to the
Gulf War, Zaire was crucial in rallying support for the U.S.-led
military operation."

http://www.fpif.org/briefs/vol2/v2n37cz_body.html



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

     Hello Pat:
     
     Happy Spri ng Century.
     
     There is functional independence and nominal independence. Yes,
African gained nominal independence. Go to the books and
     read that. Pat, can you explain why colonial masters saw it
necessary to be fomenting coup d'etats after post-colonial Africa? Do
     me a favor. I have lost my copy on Belgian's complicity in
Lumumba's death. Do you have a copy?
     
     Be cautioned, I am not into white man versus black man and other
conspiracies. I just need facts and reasonable analyses based
     on the known. Who is the new oppressor? Of course we cannot let
current African leaders off the hook if they fail to uplift. But I still
     want you to tell whether the old debauchers actually left.
     
      MsJoe
     
       
     "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't
matter, and those who matter don't mind."
      Dr. Seuss quotes
     
     
     
     In a message dated 3/15/2005 2:30:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

         Hi Pat,
         Indeed, the oppressor is within. Mobutu was armed by
         the west, most of the time with outdated second hand
         ammunition and he really oppressed his country.
         Anyway, the CIA, the French, Belgian and British
         cannot freely say they didn't know anything!

         The oppressor is within.


         --- paanderson2003 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
         >
         > Most African countries achieved their independennce
         > in the nineteen
         > sixties, and yet I read on this forum that some
         > still feel oppressed,
         > who is the new oppressor?
         > Pat.
         >
         & gt;
         >
         >


                
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