Mr Kisambira
We obviously differ in our perception of what is dead, or gone. Believe me a lot of people have accepted that UNAA is dead and as for San Francisco ? dont even bother.
You will be lucky to have the shambles coming this weekend in NY
Nume
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shame on all of you who thrive on putting down anything you get wind of, often without depth.
The convention is firmly on track. When it is all over, I can't imagine what the naysayers will latch onto. San Francisco watch out!
Stephen Kisambir
In a message dated 8/28/2006 7:13:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Simon Nume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>writes:
>Mw Mulindwa
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> The new thing that will step up will have learnt from previous mistakes. They would know what they want and how to stop conmen from hijacking it
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> They will therefore build safeguards against cheap opportunists trying to hijack the organisation, and hopefully will achieve build an organisation which will survive crooks and and conmen from everywhere.
>
> Nume
>
>
> Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Mwaami Nume
>
> Good sentiments indeed and annoying as they are thanks for the notes. I only have to add just a few lines that in the more than twenty years I have lived in this society, I have learned to run any institution on the standards of this society. It is not about Mwaami Nume it is not about Dr. Muniini Mulera but on what is right. That is what we as a people must do, that is what makes us an Ugandans yell when we see an organization getting out of track. UNAA is dead and another institution will pop up, kindly give me a good reason why that other institution will not die as UNAA has died. That is the question today.
>
> Have a good week end Ssebo
>
> Em
> Toronto
>
> The Mulindwas Communication Group
>"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> Groupe de communication Mulindwas
>"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Simon Nume
> To: The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda
> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 3:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Fw: UNAA Convention Boat Sinks - Amidst Double DealingandGreed (Who is fooling who?)
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>
> Mulindwa
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> I think that the decision NOT to save UNAA must have been reached by the same people who started and carried UNAA for the last 17 years.
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> When the likes of Wanda took on UNAA, they failed to register one important fact. That UNAA was started by volunteers who themselves supported the event.
>
> When Muniini decided to sell UNAA to M7, they wrongly assumed that the supporters had no other choice but to follow UNAA into NRM and into M7.
> At the time I remember you pointing out the folly of taking UNAA to Uganda.
>
> They failed to realise that UNAA organisers in the past put their money down and organised the convention based on trust and integrity among the organisers (Obuntu)
> They would therefore not double cross each other by organising rival boats and other such greedy scams.
>
> Since the Wanda's had no money to organise the convention, they sold it to NRM hoping that it will bankroll them. When they were threatened with the FARA law, Wanda's fate was sealed. He could no longer sell the thing to M7,and he had no money to put in the convention. He therefore resorted to suing the other boat, and to selling visas in Uganda to no avail.
>
> I think the lesson to all Ugandans should be that they should not attempt to do things beyond their capacity and comprehension.
> Wanda and co had no money or experience or goodwill to organize a convention and most importantly the man failed to remember who come to the convention and why.
>
> With such stupidity around, do you wonder why nobody saved UNAA ??
>
> UNAA deserves to die and other events will take its place.
>
> Nume
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>Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Mukasa
>
> You know all these information's are very good when we get them but we need to ask our selves, why we failed to save that organization before it even reached at this terrible stage. That is what we need to wonder about. Why was it only Edward Mulindwa crying for this organization? Why did every one keep quite when it was being driven on a freight train? For today I see nothing in UNAA to save, the organization is done and you join it due to either ignorance or plain stupidity. But why did we fail to save it?
>
> That is why Yoweri Museveni has been a leader of Uganda for this long, for the problem of Uganda is not leadership but population.
>
> Em
> Toronto
>
> The Mulindwas Communication Group
>"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> Groupe de communication Mulindwas
>"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mukasa jude
> To: The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda
> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 1:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Fw: UNAA Convention Boat Sinks - Amidst Double Dealingand Greed (Who is fooling who?)
>
>
> You all know the details that came out of the lawsuit orchestrated by Wanda and Harriet Zaffoni. By court order, the two boats are now on. Wanda literally prooved to himself, if he didn't know this before, that he's a real MORONE, that should probably be confined to a mental institution. He really did make a fool of himself. The defendants have no case to answer, that's the essence of the judge's ruling. I implore all Ugandans who did pay for the convention to put Wanda and company to task to explain the details of the lawsuit, the expenditures, and the implications. In my conservative estimation, the lawsuit may cost $20,000. That's money that you all paid to attend the convention.
> For those who have not been following these events, the lawsuit essentially claimed that Mr. Nasser Kagiri, Ms. Lilian Letaru, in collaboration with Sinaps Promotions used the resources of UAAGNY to advertize their illegal boat. It further claimed that UAAGNY is a non-profit organization with over 4,000 member that uses the convention as ITS annual event to collect revenue for the running of their organization's business. Mr. Kagiri and Ms Letalu, by organizing another boat cruise, were denying UAAGNY almost 90% of its estimated revenue collection from the boat cruise. Wow!! Harriet Zaffoni who originally accompanied Mr. Kagiri to book his boat cruise, categorically denied any knowledge of the boat before June 1. Of course you all know the kind of person Harriet Zaffoni is; no need to delve into any details.
> Check this out, in the lawsuit, Wanda and Harriet deliberately placed Mr. Kagiri at a wrong address, to which they showed, under sworn affidavit, that they had attempted three times without success to deliver the court papers. They also claimed that they attempted to contact Mr. Kagiri by phone, but the phone turned out to be unknown/out of service. Can you imagine that early last month Wanda himself called Mr. Kagiri's phone? that Harriet Zaffoni sent him a thank you card on his home address in April?
> This lawsuit, in my humble opinion, was not about anything else but greed and a systematic attempt to destroy the defendants. If this was in Uganda, God knows what would happen. In an attempt to get Mr. Kagiri fired at his job, the Wandas decided to hand deliver their affidavit to his job. The papers, which were not in any envelop, were handed to Mr. Kagiri's supervisor.
> As Ugandans ponder about this sort of insanity, I would suggest that we take some lessons from it. I do agree with the common adage that it's easier to take a person out of the bush, but difficult to take the bush out him/her. Nevertheless, if we have decided to be part of a postmodern world, we have to adopt to the demands, norms, and rules of the new world. Gone are the days when an individual's dreams, fantasies, and pathologies became law. At least not in the free world. The law does not depend on individual sentiments, feelings, and thoughts, as the Wandas may have fantasized.
>
> Just keep posted, I have a feeling that this is not the last time you'll hear about all this. Wanda's day is just beginning.
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>Simon Nume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Mr Mulindwa
>
> I internalised Anne Mugisha's message about these conmen trying to organise the convention. This is just further proof of what she said they would do.
>
> UNAA is in big trouble i think
>
> Nume
>
>Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> From: Rose Tumusiime
> To: Sara Serubula ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: abbas ; Abu Senkayi ; am ; Andrew Muwonge ; ang ; Anne Mugisha ; annette ; anyo ; Christine Nabukeera ; PATRICK AYOTA ; Prince Abdul Kimbugwe ; RICHARD KABONERO ; bakojja ; Ben Ziraba Nyende ; Bill M ; buhanga ; Jonathan Chadiha ; DR. SARA SERUBULA ; EDWARD MULINDWA ; Edith Ssempala ; Edriss Kironde ; J Nyange ; lule ; semambya ; Mitee Kituo ; Fred Kalema-Musoke ; Lugemwa FN ; gaburungyi ; Hakim Sendagire ; Hanifa Nakayiwa ; henrietta ; J Ssemakula ; James Serumaga ; Johnson Mujungu ; Joseph Senyonjo ; juliet ; Rev. Joseph Kamugisha ; kavuma ; Kaye Martin ; Kigozi Ntege ; kitaka ; kiweewa ; Kyeyune Kyeyune ; Michael Kaluya ; liz ; lwanga ; nsereko ; Sandy L ; Ssali Luwemba ; v ; musisi ; namis ; UNAA NET ; opoko ; otim ; MOSES WILSON ; SARAH MATOVU
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 9:10 PM
> Subject: Re: UNAA Convention Boat Sinks - Amidst Double Dealing and Greed (Who is fooling who?)
>
>
>
> Shocking News
>
> Fellow Ugandans I want you to hear the shocking news about the coming convention in New York. The voices in Uganda have made us learn that Mr. Wanda and his team in Uganda have turned the convention into a scam machine. Ugandans are registering for the membership fee 50,000.00 Ugandan shillings a person. That is about $ 30.00 with my limited knowledge about the constitution of UNAA I want some clarification about this membership fee being charged.
>
> NRM State Minister, and State House official, working in conjunction with the Wanda and the NRMO leadership in New York are charging Ugandan citizens $ 100.00 a head as retainer fee. Mr. Wanda is collecting $ 600.00 for accommodation that could as well be the problem why we can not find rooms at the hotel because Mr. Wanda has the rooms for a scam. We all know that no one can guarantee American visas to any Ugandan.
>
> Desperate Ugandans who want to come to the US are paying money hoping that these crooks will get visas for them. If most people do not get their visas will Wanda be ready to reimburse people?s money? There is a catch that some people can?t see, the parent body of the convention is UNAA, and if Mr. Wanda?s customers decide to sue the scamist, UNAA can not distance itself from financial liabilities of the ripped off people.
>
> My understanding was that Thalma Byenkya was responsible for the invitation, then why do we have the Wanda mafia group sending invitations and collecting money. Something smells funny, but before this is all over it will be a UNAA issue. I would like to caution UNAA not to be blindly led into what could end up with legal wrangling.
>
> Hotel policy is clear if people are not able to show up they have 24 hours not to be charged for no show. Those who will not receive their visas will be entitled to their refunds, including $ 160.00 for their registration fee. The question is who will be responsible for their retainer fee?
>
> Extracting money under false pretense is a crime and these are tough times in the US. We do not want to put UNAA in a position where the US government starts to questions the objectives of people raising funds under the auspices of our organization. A quick attention will save the organization's reputation and the victims of Mr. Wanda and his henchmen.
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> By the way: Madam Sara Gayaza Serubula, the answer to your question below is Ed K.
>
> Stay tuned I will bring all the names of the officials involved in the scam in the next writing.
>
>
> Rose Tumusiime
>
>Sara Serubula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Before I hit the Del button,
>
> Who is spying on Ugandans now??????
>
>Rose Tumusiime <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> MALICE
> Ugandan brothers and sister do not be shocked, by the temporary legal maneuvers, by the usual character Mr. Edward Wanda. In this country we have no BLACK MAMBAS the system works, the laws that take people to jail are the same laws that takes them out. Mr. Wanda acting on behalf of the organization without the membership?s consent may cause some problems for him to prevail all the way through.
>
> My two cents worthy is; right away file an injunction to stop the boat company from dealing with either side before there is a response from the appeal. In the appeal make sure that all the facts are presented including the concept a free market. We are not in monopoly market. We are entitled to compete we should not be held hostage by Wanda because he failed to advertise his boat. This issue is about competition, a concept embraced by the American way of life.
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> Last part is to let everyone know that there is no need for panic. Wanda can not be trusted with our money. Soon there are legal fights coming over money with all those they are scamming in Uganda. The fight is going to be nasty, it is better to start it now, before it is too late. I know that the majority of the Ugandans are on the right side and it is not Wanda?s side. It is our money and Wanda can not decide who we pay that money to.
>
> The cheer leaders; Twaha Bukenya and the elite lady of Gayaza, Sara Serubula, please enjoy your honeymoon. I will bring your profiles out soon. Remember that you are under our microscopic eyeview.
>
> Let this be a lesson to the future convention organizers. These are lessons learned. San Francisco please do not bring the FDC, NRM, DP, JEMMA, UPC and CP politics in UNAA, keeping it UNAA will keep us harmonious. It is all the above +++ that makes UNAA.
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> Rose Tumusiime
>
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ekuba omunaku tekya! Some information just came to my attention and I thought some of you may be interested to know, as you may be directly affected. With only days left to the commencement of the convention, and as if the organizers don?t have enough problems, now comes the report that UAAGNY is embroiled in a bitter legal log jam - and there will likely be no boat cruise on the Hudson.
>
> Trouble seems to have started when a Mr Nasser Kagiri of New York who had earlier been attending UAAGNY organising committee meetings, decided to orgarnise an alternate "fun" boat alongside UAAGNY's official "Spirit of New Jersey" boat.
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>Apparently Mr Kagiri rented his "fun" boat from the same boat company as the UAAGNY?s organising committee. UAAGNY leadership was enraged when they realised that Kagiri's "fun" boat was fully booked and theirs had a 90 percent vacancy. Perhaps in panic, they came to what can only be called a stupid and naVve decision to sue both Mr Kagiri and the boat company.
>
> Admittedly am not a lawyer, but any straight thinking lay person knows that when you rent a car, bus or a boat the rental company does not give you an exclusive right as to who will be your passengers. Nothing in the rental agreement prohibits the rental company from renting to other individuals, on the same day or in the same city.
>
> Nevertheless, Edward Wanda the UAAGNY leader is his foolhardy and greedy haste, fumed, spat and decided to sue Nasser Kagiri as well as the boat company. In doing so, Wanda sued as chairman of UAAGNY, without informing some directors of UAAGNY. Hearing is set for today August 15. Who will be the victor, and was this necessary? I guess it is obvious!
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> In an ironic and comic twist, when the boat company learnt that it is being sued by Wanda and Co, it decided to cancel BOTH the UNAA-NY boat booking as well as Nasser Kagiri's booking, until the two "business men" can work out their problems !
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> Now this is too much for me, I am inclined to follow Rose Tumusiime's advice and boycott the shambles that is this year's UNAA convention. These guys are just low level greedy shafters who should never be allowed near organising a convention again.
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