Mwaami Ssenyange
And all that argument is very right in fact Kagame does not only owe Uganda
the equipment but the free education we gave him. Had Kagame stayed in
Rwanda he would not have got that education and for free, and all he can say
to Uganda is a simple thank you which he definitely does not.
Having stated that I agree too that we can make all these arguments with out
being abusive or making statements we can not back up, that is all I am
stating. We can be civil or it makes all our arguments weak.
Em
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
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From: "ssenya nyange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ugandanet@kym.net>
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Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 1:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] PRESIDENT KAGAME LIVES A SIMPLE LIFESTILE>
Mulindwa,
How else can I describe him, a person who looks at whta pleases him and
ignores the crimes Kagame did to others! Kagame is AN ARMED ROBBER. And
because he was armed to kill, he killed whoever came in his way! Do you
need proof on this? Have you, together with Arthur Baguma & Sharangambo
forgotten that Kagame organized a gang of Rwandans, robbed our armeries(
Loories, APC, guns, rockects etc) that were paid out of Ugandan Tax payer
including us Bankubakyeyo?
And now he's suggesting that Kagame should lead us Ugandans to rob more at
gun point?
A reasonable innocent person would have come back and thanked Ugandans by
saying "thank you Ugandans for lending me your equipments...I took thme
without asking because .........However, here is a cheque of $xxx to
reimburse you for both your govt.equipment and civilan assets.." If Kagame
did that, he would have become a clean statesman in the eyes of Ugandans.
So, Mulindwa, stop your double standards.
Ssenyange
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:39:33 -0400
Ssenyange
Does he have to be paid?
You know Ssenyange these are comments I find stack into Africans,
Sharangabo might just love Kagame blindly and he is entitled to it, I do
not support the man but such allegations are becoming a part of my
denouncing my Uganda citizenship, for can you prove under oath that he is
paid? And this nonsense is mainly from Baganda. You know there is a way
you can debate Sharangabo with out making such allegations. And you know
you as a man who has been abroad for a while one would expect better
surely.
Unbelievable !!!!!
Em
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message ----- From: "ssenya nyange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 5:29 PM
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Arthur Baguma aka Sharangabo,
We know you're well paid in $ to advertize your president Kagame. We dont
have all that time to read your adverts. Yes we can always apply the
"delete" button but its also an inconvinience. They are too many adverts
worthy deleting.
Who ever gave you that name or nick name must be credited: "Mu
salangambo" From that meaning who will trust your unfounded statements\
roumers= ngambo
Ssenyange
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Subject: [Ugnet] PRESIDENT KAGAME LIVES A SIMPLE LIFESTILE>
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:20:38 -0400 (EDT)
Uganda: President Paul Kagame Lives a Simple Lifestyle
New Vision (Kampala)
COLUMN
October 24, 2006
Posted to the web October 25, 2006
Arthur Baguma
Kampala
ALONE, he strolls in, clad in a blue suit with a matching pair of
brown shoes and takes turns to give us a handshake.
"Sorry for keeping you waiting," he says. We had waited for a few
minutes. The president had been attending a cabinet meeting. The room
where we are meeting him is simple, with beautiful interior decor- a
big round table with armchairs around it, a gold-plated sofa set and a
coffee table on one side. There is no special seat for the president.
We sit on the same chairs and table with him.
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As I take a seat close to him, almost rubbing shoulders with him, the
other side of this renowned revolutionary starts emerging. His gestures
and speech make it difficult to trace the presidential authority in
him. He is calm, answering questions slowly, punctuated by
illustrations of clarity.
For close to one-and-half hours, he eloquently takes us through
Rwanda's history and what has made it the envy of the world today. He
gives a passionate view of his strong desire to have Rwanda and Uganda
sail in the same boat.
When I finish interviewing him about what protocol had accepted as an
official interview, I wonder if there isn't something more to this man
than just - a revolutionary-turned statesman. Several 'un-official'
questions linger in my mind. What kind of lifestyle could he be living?
Where does he do his shopping? What about rumours that he walks on the
streets of Kigali unescorted?
I am awakened from this deep thinking after being told to wrap up the
interview with two more questions
"Mr President, we have had a good interview about your vision and the
transformation of Rwanda. But there are things about your personal life
people would wish to know. People look up to you as a role model. Do
you mind sharing your personal life?" I ask.
Looking straight into my eyes, he taps his finger, sending me into a
marathon guess of what his answer will be. "Like what? That is fine,"
he replies.
Like a hungry hunter, I immediately reach out for my pen and
notebook. "Your excellency, people admire the presidency for the luxury
and prestige that come with it, but some think you have disappointed
them on this. That you live a very simple life-style, uncharacteristic
of a president..." I begin.
The towering president nodes his head and smiles. He goes on to
demystify this, citing the fact
that in his simple lifestyle, he probably lives a million times
better than he used to live.
"I don't care mine has been a life of refugee camps, bushes and
trenches .if I lived in trenches, why shouldn't I live in a simple
house?" Kagame asks. Officials from his office look on in amusement. My
colleague, Kyomuhendo Muhanga, is shocked by the president's
revelation; he falls short of throwing his hands in disbelief.
Kagame says he does not believe in living the larger-than life pomp
that comes with the presidency. There was no bodyguard in the meeting
room, only a pole on which the national flag hangs, stood behind his
seat.
Residents of Kigali say Kagame has been seen driving alone or
visiting neighbourhoods without 'adequate security'. Like one petrol
station attendant told us, "Kagame sometimes drives a convoy not
different from that of a successful businessman - two cars. His convoy
some times has only two cars, even at night."
But Kagame says he is not worried about his security. "In my country,
I do not think there is much to protect myself against. I am
comfortable with my people and who I am. I visit people in their homes,
just like any other citizen," he says.
Surprisingly, the president does not know of any fashion label. When
I ask him what label his suit is and what it cost, his answer is an
expression of surprise.
"I do not know about designer labels. This is not a designer suit. I
shop here in Kigali and sometimes abroad when I travel on duty .
sometimes my wife or escort shop for me."
However, when his wife or escort shop for him, they sometimes buy
clothes that do not fit him.
"You see, I have a strange shape, it is difficult to get clothes that
fit me. May be that's where having a personal designer would come in
handy, but I have never thought about it," Kagame reveals.
He confers that to some extent, his childhood explains what he is
today.
As a refugee, he struggled to go to school and lived on handouts.
Little wonder, he wants to ensure that people do not go through his
experience - exposure to too much suffering for bad political reasons.
"Sometimes we would go without meals. For me, it has been a life of
struggling."
His advice and philosophy in life is, never to know what you want to
achieve as a person, but what you would want your society to achieve.
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When he is not busy with state work, he spends his time with his
family. "I give a lot of time to my family."
After an up close interaction, it was time to part company, but with
one message from him, "You are always welcome,"
Humble, down-to-earth and a realist, is the analysis I made about
Kagame. When I intimated these words to Ferdinand Muhawenimana our
chauffer, he laughed loudly and hit hard the steering wheel. "You have
studied him so well, that is the man . he is very easy and every one
here calls him the people's president," Muhawenimana said as we drove
out of State House.
Sharangabo Rufagari
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