Konw what Mu7 is upto in Uganda and don't distort issues with some silly history. Mu7 talked of shooting Dr. Obote if he steps foot in Entebbe! And that is what Ugandans must be told, so they know; not some idiotic public relation stunt! It shall haunt you, and like I said before, you will be hunted like a Deer for trying to maintain Mu7 in power when all indications are, he has failed the country, and must go! What industrialization are you talking about? What industires are there in Uganda as we speak? Iran under went a revolution in 1979. By 2007 they are going nuclear!! What has Mu7 done for Uganda apart from killing off the North and East both in human and economic terms? Kateregga get to know the issues at stake, before yapping like an idiot. Ocii
Ahmed Kateregga Musaazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In 1995 President Museveni was quoted as saying that Obote was free to return to Uganda but he may be charged with mass murder in Luwero Triangle. Then he said that Amin should better live where he was because if he ever stepped back to Uganda he would be shot on spot for the people he killed during his regime. But in 1997 while opening Htel Africana, the president castigated Obote for saying that "go back to villages," when he knew that when the country is industrialising, there must be urban migration. He wished Obote dead but did not say that he was going to kill him himself. On more than one ocasion, Museveveni had been sending envoys to Obote persuading the old man to return. The first was Col.now Maj.Gen.Kahinda Otafiire, then Cecilio Ogwal Atim Naalongo, Dr.Ruhaka Rugunda. He also used a Zambian Indian who arranged a meeting between Obote and Museveni and while Museveni kept on waiting with Kategaya, Obote never left his residence. Unlike you sir, i am not only a journalist but a hisorian. ----- Original Message ----- From: ocii To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Ugandanet@kym.net Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 3:00 PM Subject: Re: BESIGYE IS NO PEACE MAKER FOR UGANDA Kateregga, I like people with good long memory! Unless age is creeping up on you, did you not hear Mu7 state that he will have Dr. Obote shot if he step foot in Entebbe airport? You see, that I why I see you as a waste that only realism will wake the hell out of! What is the point of allowing a dead Dr. Obote back home but would shoot dead an alive Dr. Obote if he sets foot in Entebbe?? These fools cannot deprive Ugandans their country Kateregga, before you eventually reap the wrath of many wananchi eventually! Don't make change very very scary for you, for change is coming whether we like it or not. Ocii Ahmed Kateregga Musaazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ocii, President Museveni has no personal grudge against the late President Milton Obote. That is why all the time he was persuading him to return which he never did to Amin. In his own words, "Obote couln not kill you to take your wife or house, Amin could do it." He allowed Obote's body to return and accorded him a state funeral which he denied Amin. But even then, Museveni has been catering for Amin's large family. ----- Original Message ----- From: ocii To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Ugandanet@kym.net Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:51 AM Subject: RE: BESIGYE IS NO PEACE MAKER FOR UGANDA Why did Mu7 hate Dr. Obote, a man who recruited him into public service when he was still a student, so much? Was his hate for Dr. Obote only personal or he translated the hate into hating the party the man found? Gau, I like intelligent discussions. Ocii NOC´LADUMAS GEORGES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: .hmmessage P { PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } BODY.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma } Yes Kelle, I bear with you on this "Obal-UPC's" suicidal crusade. Except the part that, "it is / was Musseveni" holding the dagger. That contradicts your "look inside" call. A strong political party is always opposed and all political parties undermine each other and attract members from each other. Each party chooses it's counter weapon (strategy). The UPC could not be so dumb that they did not realize other parties too are grazing the same pasture: the same Ugandan electorates. The deal is all you party folks got to know the game and as you put it, look deep inside before of throwing the blame on some one else. Noc'la gau --------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 18:58:41 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: BESIGYE IS NO PEACE MAKER FOR UGANDA To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Ugandanet@kym.net Mr Semuwemba, What these UPC members and supoorters are doing, is continue killing UPC further. They do not realise the level of destruction Mu7 has meted on the party so far, that for UPC to regain some of its vegetative nerves, so it can begin to function again as a party, the party needs a dock to anchor, while it recovers. Dr Besigye, by breaking away from the NRA/M, offers perfectly that opportunity UPC, as a beaten up party, needs, if it should regain its lost glory. Many of UPC bigshots, like Rwakasisi, Lurangaranga, Rwanyarare, Okulu Epak, Obadiya Lalobo, on and on, are either long gone, and no longer with us, or are just struggling with a non-visionary youths, who should know how to go about this terrible era in the party's life, but they don't. Most of these youths are just by and large confused. To them, Dr. Besigye is their enemy #1. So all their energies are being expended to fight Dr. Besigye and his FDC, when the real person who worked diligently to kill the party is still sitting on that throne and presiding over the complete annihillation of the party. As these UPC members and supporters fight Dr. Besigye and his FDC, Dr. Besigye and his party will eventually fight back. And Mu7? He will be smilling all the way to the bank!! For, after these two have destroyed themselves, who will be left to fight the Bahima's master plan of ruling Uganda for 50 years?? I have stated before that UPC is infiltrated. I will repeat again, the party is infiltrated. For, the way some of these UPC diehards are fixated with Dr. Besigye and his FDC, leave a lot to be desired, given Dr. Besigye is not even in power! And until UPC look inward, the Otienos, Ocaya, Mulindwas, Okellos, will just be wipping an already dead horse. Pure and simple. Ocii Abbey Semuwemba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: .ExternalClass .EC_shape {;} .ExternalClass EC_p.MsoNormal, .ExternalClass EC_li.MsoNormal, .ExternalClass EC_div.MsoNormal {margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';} .ExternalClass a:link, .ExternalClass EC_span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} .ExternalClass a:visited, .ExternalClass EC_span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} .ExternalClass p {margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';} .ExternalClass EC_span.EmailStyle20 {color:black;} @page Section1 {size:595.3pt 841.9pt;} .ExternalClass EC_div.Section1 {page:Section1;} Mr. Edward, You may as well would have written this article yourself. The whole article sounds like you not Ochieno. I noted so many words you normally use during this situation. It is so amazing how UPC wastes the partys finances de-campaigning the opposition party instead of NRMO. Have a good one. Abbey GOD BLESS --------------------------------- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Mulindwa Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 11:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ugandanet@kym.net Cc: Pan-Africanist Forum; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; rwanda; Congo Subject: BESIGYE IS NO PEACE MAKER FOR UGANDA OTHER THOUGHTS | Joseph Ochieno ... It is UPC that has set the political pace October 27 - November 3, 2007 In his column entitled Besigye turns Ugandan political tradition upside down, Daily Monitor, October 22, typical of reconditioned NRMs, Dr Munini Mulera attempts to justify the repackaging of Dr Kizza Besigye by attempting to set his bar against previous leaders of Uganda, including Dr Milton Obote. A fine attempt it was. Courageous and patriotic, he describes Besigye, and hailing him on internal democracy within FDC. I recognise Dr Besigyes courage in falling out with President Yoweri Museveni, but I am yet to be fully satisfied whether this was as a result of personal, social, political or genuine patriotic reasons. Whatever the case, I do not recognise Dr Muninis version of political traditions, nor do I accept that Dr Besigyes standard is Ugandas political best. We have been hoodwinked for so long, that particularly for the youths, we do not recognise that we deserve better, whether in politics, economics, public service or even basic moral standards. Dr Besigye took 19 years, from the NRA terror war in 1981 to realise that President Musevenis system was illegal. Some leaders of FDC say they were duped, others that it is the President who deviated from the original good NRM/NRA path, that is why they fell out. Where then is the judgement of our would-be leaders? Dr Besigye was President Musevenis personal doctor and later director of training and operations in the infamous NRA. Ugandans may ask: When the Luwero skulls were being sorted for publicity, where was he? When bombs were being hurled at innocent citizens in Kampalas taxi park and Ugandans, especially of northern extraction were being framed Anyanyas, where was he? When Iteso people were being roasted in broad day light in Mukura, the massacres at Atiak and Corner Kilak, where was Dr Besigye? And when Objective no. 1 of the NRA/NRM was being coined -. to overthrow the UPC/Obote government by force of arms if necessary and establish a one party state under NRA/NRM, where was Kizza? When they stormed Kampala in January 1986 and instituted the ban on political party activities, where was Kizza? Besigye, the National Political Commissar of NRA must have had an idea or an opinion on what was to become Article 269 of the NRA Constitution that clearly stated that existing political parties like DP and UPC may exist in name only but may not; open or operate branches or constituencies, hold public rallies, campaign for or sponsor candidates for local or national elections, or hold national delegates conferences to debate its policies or elect leaders. It was not until UPC and DP challenged these obnoxious provisions in court and won, on November 17, 2004, that it became possible for political parties in Uganda to operate including Besigyes FDC. For the record, Obote led in that legal campaign. The UPC Constitution, a document that Museveni and Besigyes wing of NRM took a leaf from clearly states that our leaders are elected by the Delegates Conferences. In as long as the ban imposed by Museveni and Besigye was in force, UPC could not hold such a conference hence, Obote could not hand over power unless of course he delivered it to quislings and turn-coats unconstitutionally that is. Immediately we won the court case in 2004, Obote quickly set up the Constitutional Steering Commission under the chairmanship of Haji Badru Wegulo, that led to the first UPC Delegates Conference in November 2005 and the election of Mama Miria as the new president. It was the most open and democratic election of any party leader that season, all in the glare of the media. Besigye and Munini should give thanks and credit to Obote, otherwise, perhaps, it would have been another 2001 in which the thirst for power rather than building of national democratic institutions would have meant candidates standing once again on personal merit other than on competitive multiparty tickets. If they are serious, let them take a leaf from their British Conservative Party friends who have had four new leaders since 1997. That is, leaders stepping down after losing elections. Yes, Besigye lost in their personal merit games in 2001 and again in the 2006 charade. Comparing Besigye with Obote is a tall order. For the record, it was Obote who, in the first exile in Tanzania, told President Julius Nyerere that it is nice to step down when one is still popular. It follows from this that had it not been for the coup by Amin and the British, the elections which were due in 1971 and which UPC was expected to win, would have been Obotes last as president. Likewise, elections were due later in 1985 and had DP, the Okellos, Museveni and Besigye not opted for a cowardly military short cut, Obote would unlikely have served beyond 1990, as UPC was widely expected to win those elections. Even then, when Obote returned in 1980, despite the indisputable fact that he was the brain and power behind the defeat of Amins regime, he made it very public that he would claim no office in UPC or in Uganda on his return. He insisted that UPC would have to re-elect him, if they so wished. And they did. And UPC would have to present itself to the people of Uganda and get re-elected, and Ugandans did. Typically, Museveni and Besigye had other ideas and benchmarks for Ugandas political traditions. Obsession with Obote should be left to Museveni and his imperialist handlers, not sensible Ugandans who claim opportunity to renew our country. The man did his best in 12 years and two administrations. The monuments shall prevail for a few more generations to come. In Museveni and Besigyes case, we have not yet started archaeological work in Luwero alone, before the trips to northern, eastern and western Uganda. Then Rwanda, Burundi, Congo and parts of the Sudan. Most of these took place while Besigye was still a serving officer of NRA. Picking and choosing standards is no way to rebuild Uganda. The NRA narrative that there was no Uganda before 1986 is dangerous, discredited and harms our efforts for a genuine national truth and reconciliation for which both Museveni and Besigye are lukewarm respondents. A recycled NRM is no pacemaker for Uganda; Besigye meets no criteria for setting Ugandas political benchmarks. The future of Uganda lies in the visionary hands of the millions of fresh, untainted and progressively youthful citizens. Reliable, consistent and nationalist men and women of integrity and probity. Nationalists who will provide genuine leadership, not opportunists who would break up the republic through their shadow cabinets if that is what it takes to reach State House. In building for the future, a new, revamped and tested UPC shall always do it for God, and my country. 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