Ahmed Kateregga What about all the crimes to the people he comited when he was commanding UPDF? And that is a straight question sir, if you need Oba PaAB' s assistance in responding to it, I am fine with that, now that he is one of those that sweep criminality under the carpet on every single crappy politicians out there.
EM On the 49th Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy" Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko" -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ahmed Kateregga Musaazi Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: {UAH} Katerega:MAFABI VS MUGISHA MUNTU FOR FDC PRESIDENCY Oba, Mulindwa and others, Muntu has strong and weak pints like any other human being. But given the fact that most of our leadership is infested with corruption scandals, he remains a clean person. On 4/2/12, Oba PaAb <[email protected]> wrote: > What is FDC electing a new leader for? > > As a new party FDC needs to establish itself first as a viable, trust > worthy party before even thinking of leadership change. FDC is not > like UPC and DP, the older parties people know and trust. Without Dr. > Besigye, FDC cannot survive the murky water of Uganda political > environment today because there are people who believe the party is > packed with NRA/MO opportunists who saw opportunity to abandon NRA/MO > since it looks like NRA/MO is headed for catastrophe. They are > therefore mere opportunist in the eyes of many. Any stupid mistake of > electing a new leader is going to drive the FDC party right out of Uganda politics. > > People, and lots of people, are supporting FDC because of Dr. Besigye > who single handedly rose up against the Ogre and therefore stood out > from amongst the NRA/MO crowd. Without Dr. Besigye leading the FDC > into the new era, just watch how the party is going to get picked > apart by political scavengers and thrown out just a carcass. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oba > > > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Abbey Semuwemba > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Ahmed, >> You are right that with Muntu in office, Besigye will find it >> difficult to use any FDC structures for anything but FDC needs >> Besigye more than the former needs them.He is to FDC what M7 is to >> NRM, Late Nyerere was to Chama cha Mapinduzi, Mugabe is to ZANU or >> Mandella to ANC. I'm afraid FDC is likely to become another MDC in >> Zimbabwe in the post Besigye era if the person elected tries to >> sideline Besigye. >> >> As for giving NRM a run for their money, i dont think Mugisha Muntu >> will do it. He is , what did you call him? Mr. Clean'? Mr. Clean >> cannot give Museveni a run for his money. Museveni only understands >> Besigye's language. >> >> Abbey >> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Ahmed Kateregga Musaazi < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Kassim Kiberu, in case Mr. Clean or Maj. Gen. Mugisha Muntu is >>> elected FDC President and is later endorsed Presidential candidate, >>> not only will we give NRM A RUN FOR ITS MONEY IF IT STICKS TO THE >>> CORRUPT AS CANDIDATES, BUT ALSO BESIGYE WILL HAVE LAND FROM ELSE >>> WHERE FOR FDC LEADERSHIP WILL NOT ALLOW HIM TO USE IT AS PERSONALY >>> PROPERTY TO STICK HIMSELF TO A4C AS IF HE IS A NATURAL OPPOSITION LEADER. >>> NANDALA IS STILL A PLAY BOY WHO IS NOT PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL. IN >>> FACXT I COMPARE NANDALA TO FORMER RADIO Uganda's Lwezaawula, who is >>> short tempered and too emotional. >>> >>> On 4/2/12, Allan <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > When did NRM gov't ever care? >>> > >>> > On 1 April 2012 15:29, Moses Ocen Nekyon <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> >> ** >>> >> Government no longer cares. Why dont we re-examine the issues >>> >> that Besigye raised. We had caring governments [like] that of >>> >> Milton Obote, >>> but >>> >> now things are collapsing." >>> >> >>> >> Ocen >>> >> >>> >> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile >>> >> ------------------------------ >>> >> *From: * rahimu jabendo <[email protected]> >>> >> *Sender: * [email protected] >>> >> *Date: *Sun, 1 Apr 2012 22:08:40 +0100 >>> >> *To: *<[email protected]> >>> >> *ReplyTo: * [email protected] >>> >> *Subject: *Re: {UAH} MAFABI VS MUGISHA MUNTU FOR FDC PRESIDENCY >>> >> >>> >> Tribal card shouldnt deny Muntu crack at FDC mantle< >>> http://www.observer.ug/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id= >>> 18002:tribal-card-shouldnt-deny-muntu-crack-at-fdc-mantle&catid=34:n >>> ews&Itemid=114 >>> > >>> >> >>> >> News >>> >> < >>> http://www.observer.ug/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id >>> =34:news&layout=blog&Itemid=114 >>> > >>> >> Sunday, 01 April 2012 20:09 >>> >> Written by David Tash Lumu >>> >> 1 >>> >> Comments< >>> http://www.observer.ug/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id= >>> 18002:tribal-card-shouldnt-deny-muntu-crack-at-fdc-mantle&catid=34:n >>> ews&Itemid=114#comments >>> > >>> >> [image: >>> >> E-mail]< >>> http://www.observer.ug/index.php?option=com_mailto&tmpl=component&li >>> nk=ecaa10f1e9021cac648b02e03db9310bcc9acdb7 >>> > >>> >> [image: >>> >> Print]< >>> http://www.observer.ug/index.php?view=article&catid=34%3Anews&id=180 >>> 02%3Atribal-card-shouldnt-deny-muntu-crack-at-fdc-mantle&tmpl=compon >>> ent&print=1&layout=default&page=&option=com_content&Itemid=114 >>> > >>> >> [image: >>> >> PDF]< >>> http://www.observer.ug/index.php?view=article&catid=34%3Anews&id=180 >>> 02%3Atribal-card-shouldnt-deny-muntu-crack-at-fdc-mantle&format=pdf& >>> option=com_content&Itemid=114 >>> > >>> >> >>> >> In for Muntu: Okwir Rwaboni finds no reason why Muntu shouldn't >>> >> succeed fellow tribesman Besigye Retired Major Okwir Rabwoni, a >>> >> former Youth MP turned activist with the Centre for >>> >> Constitutional Governance, has supported a bid by former >>> Army >>> >> Commander, Major General Mugisha Muntu, to replace outgoing FDC >>> >> leader, Col >>> >> (rtd) Dr Kizza Besigye. >>> >> >>> >> Rabwoni, has also condemned the widely held political theory >>> >> within FDC that Besigyes successor should not come from the >>> >> western region, >>> arguing >>> >> that tribe shouldnt be put ahead of merit. >>> >> >>> >> I have heard people in FDC say that [they] will not elect >>> >> Mugisha >>> Muntu >>> >> because he comes from western Uganda. That is backward, Rabwoni, >>> >> said. >>> >> >>> >> A former FDC activist who participated in the 1981-1986 bush war >>> >> that brought NRM into power, Rabwoni, was speaking on Capital >>> >> FMs popular Capital Gang political show on Saturday. His remarks >>> >> come at a time >>> when >>> >> the tribal card has been played by some FDC members in the search >>> >> for Besigyes replacement. The aforesaid members opine that the >>> >> person to >>> take >>> >> over the mantle should not come from where Besigye hails >>> >> western >>> region. >>> >> >>> >> Already, Muntu, who is FDCs Secretary for Mobilisation and >>> >> Nathan >>> Nandala >>> >> Mafabi, Leader of Opposition in Parliament and Budadiri West MP, >>> >> have declared their intentions to replace Besigye. Owing to the >>> >> fact that he hails from western Uganda, Mugisha Muntu has been >>> >> written off by a >>> section >>> >> of FDC members. However, Rabwoni, has dismissed this line of >>> >> thought as petty. >>> >> >>> >> I dont want to do petty politics. I want to do qualitative >>> politics, he >>> >> said. >>> >> >>> >> Rabwoni,, a brother to the late Brig Noble Mayombo, argues that >>> >> Uganda >>> is >>> >> faced with mediocrity and that the opposition is weak and >>> paranoid. >>> >> He has also called upon Museveni to revisit the critical paper >>> >> that was authored by Besigye in 1999 and assess why the >>> >> revolution has gone off track. >>> >> >>> >> Government no longer cares. Why dont we re-examine the issues >>> >> that Besigye raised. We had caring governments [like] that of >>> >> Milton Obote, >>> but >>> >> now things are collapsing. We have to go back to the drawing >>> >> board as a country and ask where we went wrong, especially us who >>> >> were >>> liberators, >>> >> Rabwoni, advised >>> >> >>> >> Elsewhere, he praised the current bi-partisan cooperation among a >>> section >>> >> of lawmakers in the ninth parliament on issues affecting the citizens. >>> He, >>> >> however, rallied for a national dialogue so that Ugandans can >>> >> determine their future. He also argued that the proposed talks >>> >> between Museveni >>> and >>> >> Besigye cannot work. >>> >> We need to conquer fear and talk to one another as Uganda; not >>> >> Besigye talking to Museveni. We need dialogue, he said, adding: >>> >> It is >>> important >>> >> to respect the constitution, build the institutions and have a >>> >> vibrant society. Corruption must be addressed. Why dont we have >>> >> a functional cabinet? Why is the presidency almost the only >>> >> institution in the >>> country? >>> >> Ugandans should come up and question these issues. If we are to >>> strengthen >>> >> our society, we need to sober up and take our country forward. >>> >> >>> >> [email protected] >>> >> >>> >> On 1 April 2012 14:20, Dr.Edward Kayondo <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> Very good and interesting news,quick questions how does FDC >>> >>> manage to conduct free and fair elections? Which procedures do >>> >>> they use to guarantee that? >>> >>> >>> >>> FDC claimed that the President essentially bought the presidency >>> >>> by spending a lot of money during the election period, how is >>> >>> the party going to prevent the same happening within there own >>> >>> election period? Will >>> the >>> >>> candidates have a limit on how much they can spend, who to give >>> >>> the >>> money >>> >>> too or they will only work within the party guaranteed funds if any? >>> >>> >>> >>> Eddie, M.D >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From:* Kassimu kiberu <[email protected]> >>> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, April 1, 2012 8:09 AM >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: {UAH} MAFABI VS MUGISHA MUNTU FOR FDC PRESIDENCY >>> >>> >>> >>> Muntu, Mafabi fight for Besigyes seat Publish Date: Apr 01, >>> >>> 2012 >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> >>> - >>> >>> - >>> >>> Share< >>> http://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.newvision.co.u >>> g%2Fnews%2F630027-muntu-mafabi-fight-for-besigye-s-seat.html&t=Muntu >>> %2C%20Mafabi%20fight%20for%20Besigye%E2%80%99s%20seat&src=sp >>> > >>> >>> - >>> >>> - >>> >>> - [image: mail] >>> >>> >>> >>> < >>> http://www.newvision.co.ug/news/630027-muntu-mafabi-fight-for-besigy >>> e-s-seat.html# >>> > >>> >>> - <http://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php> >>> >>> - >>> >>> - [image: Big font] [image: Small font] >>> >>> >>> >>> *BY MOSES MULONDO* >>> >>> >>> >>> The race for the Presidency of the Forum for Democratic Change >>> >>> (FDC) >>> has >>> >>> narrowed down to two people. >>> >>> >>> >>> Former army commander, Gen. Mugisha Muntu and the leader of >>> opposition in >>> >>> parliament Nathan Nandala Mafabi are headed for a tight race, >>> according >>> >>> to >>> >>> FDC sources. >>> >>> >>> >>> Both have started campaigning before the official kick-off. FDC >>> president >>> >>> retired Colonel Dr. Kizza Besigye recently announced that he had >>> decided >>> >>> to >>> >>> retire from the FDC presidency later this year to create before >>> >>> his >>> term >>> >>> ends in 2014 to create ample time for his successor to build >>> >>> enough political clout for the 2016 presidential elections. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sources within the party revealed that both Muntu and Mafabi >>> >>> have been moving around the country identifying their campaign >>> >>> managers. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sunday Vision has also learnt that party leaders have agreed to >>> inject a >>> >>> lot of money into the contest to make it a national event and >>> >>> generate publicity for FDC. >>> >>> >>> >>> The FDC party chief administrator, Wycliffe Bakandonda said the >>> >>> contestants will be given ample time of at least four months to >>> campaign >>> >>> across the country explaining their visions for the party to all >>> >>> the party members before the climax in the Delegates Conference. >>> >>> >>> >>> Before the campaigns officially begin, there will be a process >>> >>> for updating the partys voters register which is likely to >>> >>> take some >>> bit of >>> >>> time after which we shall convene a National Council meeting to >>> >>> come >>> up >>> >>> with transition roadmap, Bakandonda said. >>> >>> >>> >>> Muntu, who is revered by many across the political divide for >>> >>> being stainless and God fearing, stood against Dr. Besigye in >>> >>> the 2009 race >>> for >>> >>> the Presidency of FDC. >>> >>> >>> >>> Mafabi, on the other hand, is new in the race. Other people who >>> >>> have expressed interest in the FDC presidency but have not yet >>> >>> started campaigns include the shadow attorney general Abdu >>> >>> Katuntu, Anne Mugisha, >>> Godfrey >>> >>> Ekanya, the Vice President for the western region Amanya >>> >>> Mushega, and >>> the >>> >>> Aswa MP Reagan Okumu. >>> >>> >>> >>> But Katuntu, one of the most popular party officials, is also >>> >>> said >>> to be >>> >>> interested in the position of party chairman, whose current >>> >>> occupant >>> Sam >>> >>> Njuba declared sometime back that he had retired from elective >>> politics. >>> >>> >>> >>> Bakandonda revealed that the party leader Besigye made his >>> >>> formal request to the partys National Council to allow him >>> >>> retire from the >>> FDC >>> >>> presidency before this year ends. >>> >>> >>> >>> From the expressions of Besigye, it is clear that he wants to >>> handover >>> >>> the FDC presidency as soon as possible. If we take long to >>> >>> organize >>> the >>> >>> Delegates conference for him to handover we shall have been >>> >>> unkind to him, >>> >>> Bakandonda argued. >>> >>> >>> >>> Although by the time this year ends Besigye will no longer be >>> >>> the FDC president, the party constitution does not stop him from >>> >>> contesting >>> for >>> >>> the >>> >>> Presidency of Uganda. But many party officials are against the >>> >>> idea of bringing back Besigye in the presidential contest for >>> >>> the fourth trial after losing the contest three times. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 1:12 AM, Hannah Ogwapiti < >>> >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> National >>> >>> Race to succeed Besigye hots up [image: L-R: Outgoing FDC >>> >>> president Kizza Besigye and possible successors Mugisha Muntu >>> >>> and Nandala >>> Mafabi.] >>> >>> L-R: Outgoing FDC president Kizza Besigye and possible >>> >>> successors >>> Mugisha >>> >>> Muntu and Nandala Mafabi. PHOTO MONTAGE By CHARLES MWANGUHYA >>> >>> MPAGI (email the author) >>> >>> >>> >>> Posted Saturday, March 10 2012 at 00:00 Opposition Forum for >>> >>> Democratic Change party will have a new leader >>> in >>> >>> July, according to a roadmap drawn for choosing a replacement >>> >>> for retiring party president Kizza Besigye. >>> >>> This follows the announcement early this year by Dr Besigye, who >>> leaves >>> >>> after three unsuccessful runs for President of Uganda, that he >>> intended >>> >>> to >>> >>> bow out of the day-to-day running of party affairs earlier than >>> >>> the >>> party >>> >>> constitution provides. >>> >>> The partys secretary general, Ms Alice Alaso, presented the >>> >>> roadmap >>> last >>> >>> week for transitioning from Besigye to a new FDC leader to two >>> >>> of >>> FDCs >>> >>> top >>> >>> organs, a management committee and the National Executive Committee. >>> >>> We will have a replacement for Dr Besigye by July if the road >>> >>> map is adopted as presented, a source familiar with the goings >>> >>> on in FDC >>> said. >>> >>> Ms >>> >>> Alaso confirmed to Saturday Monitor that a plan had been worked >>> >>> but >>> said >>> >>> the finer details were yet to be finalised and specific dates >>> >>> would be communicated. >>> >>> Dr Besigye, a former confidante and bush war physician of >>> >>> President Museveni, has led the countrys biggest opposition >>> >>> party through three high octane campaigns, two of which ended >>> >>> with him dragging Mr Museveni and the Electoral Commission to >>> >>> the Supreme Court, citing electoral fraud. >>> >>> Having controversially lost both court petitions in 2001 and >>> >>> 2006, Dr Beisgye decided he could not again trust the court >>> >>> system to summon >>> the >>> >>> courage to set aside an election in which Mr Museveni was a >>> participant >>> >>> regardless of the evidence. >>> >>> He vowed never to appeal to the court system again and has since >>> >>> said >>> he >>> >>> will not participate in any election again unless wide-ranging >>> >>> reforms are put in place. >>> >>> Retired Supreme Court judge John Bosco Katutsi last year said >>> >>> judges >>> in >>> >>> 2001 had agreed that Mr Musevenis election was fraudulent and >>> >>> only stopped short of declaring it a nullity after coming under >>> >>> immense pressure >>> and >>> >>> intimidation. >>> >>> And as the race for the next FDC president takes shape, the >>> >>> battle is narrowing to two party stalwarts, former Army >>> >>> Commander Mugisha Muntu >>> and >>> >>> Leader of Opposition in Parliament Nandala Mafabi. >>> >>> Only the position of party president is falling vacant since Dr >>> Besigye >>> >>> voluntarily opted to cut his tenure short. 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