Friends
In one of the series I forget the number I said that Northerners were brought
up with an understanding that no one creates his income but we all must feed on
society. I said as well that if you talk to Northerners that have gone to
school at random, ask them how they paid for their education you will realize
that they have a scholarship somewhere. Read these notes carefully and you
will realize how they believe that we all get paid by a government
institution/agency. Facebook was paid by Museveni to shut down the UAH Facebook
site. Remember how George Okello stood by that argument? Well I guess now that
the forum is open again, I think Facebook refunded the money back to Uganda
government. Abbey Semuwemba runs UAH for he is paid by Museveni, remember that
argument from the very same circles? The series were started for EM was paid to
confuse UAH forum from discussing the delegates conference, remember that? Well
I think the series is continuing today for the delegates conference is still
running. Now EM is a paid NRA agent and a part of a sleeper cell. Still all
this revelation coming from a same circle. So to them we as individuals can
never do anything unless we are paid, they are now complaining about the skin
of Semuwemba, my God who pays for his looks. Well may be the man is hiding from
no one for he has done nothing wrong and he just wants to live a normal life.
Well try posting your bonny ass photograph as well let us see it and how you
are doing. Start a forum let us see how it succeeds. Start a series let us see
how it survives. Start something in your own firkin lives. Ge'ez
Then you will know that there ae some Ugandans that strive to live
independently but happily ever after.
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
-----Original Message-----
From: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of George Okello
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 11:23 AM
To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: {UAH} Proposals for Uganda’s post-NRM transitional government
Mulindwa is a paid NRA agent provocateur. He was previously part of a sleeper
cell, but has now been activated and thrown into open battle.
His role is to cause confusion amongst the progressive forces and to divert
them from their urgent tasks , which currently is the removal of the NRA from
power and bringing to an end its tyrannical rule.
Mulindwa is also used by the NRA to attack those patriotic forces who want to
liberate our country from tyranny and oppression. He is a
rabid-counter-revolutionary and an enemy of the Ugandan people who must be
dealt with sooner rather than later. The danger that Edward Mulindwa poses can
never be underestimated. He is like a killer lion who has tasted human blood
and flesh. He will always want more unless eliminated.
George Okello
On 12/27/14, Ssalongo Ssennoga <firstcall...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Saimo! Divide and rule is a very old policy! I hope you can see it at
> play on this particular thread! EM is doing a great job for whoever
> picks the tab.
>
> Villager
>
> On Saturday, December 27, 2014, 'Simon Okurut' via Ugandans at Heart
> (UAH) Community <ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Ssekajja,
>>
>> If people do not address the root cause of our problems, we risk the
>> failure of ever contributing to the unity and transformation of our
>> country. When I see people who claim to be mature, critical thinkers
>> and educated keep blaming one tribe for the atrocities that were
>> visited on our people, then I realize they are not serious and they
>> should never use such phrases as "critical thinkers."
>>
>> Divide Uganda's history to three periods: pre-colonial, colonial and
>> post-colonial to "discover" which tribe has been innocent in the
>> affairs of its neighours/country, far and near then engage freely is
>> castigating one tribe as you wish.
>>
>> I hope the 2015 will see the end of this insensitivity to blanket blame.
>> I
>> am uncomfortable reading about dehumanization of groups for mistakes
>> that are not entirely of their own.
>>
>> Peter Simon
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* 'Ssekajja' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community <
>> ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com');>>
>> *To:* "ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com');>"
>> < ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com');>>
>> *Cc:* "<uganda...@yahoogroups.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','uganda...@yahoogroups.com');>>" <
>> uganda...@yahoogroups.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','uganda...@yahoogroups.com');>>; "<
>> ugandanet@kym.net
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ugandanet@kym.net');>>" <
>> ugandanet@kym.net
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ugandanet@kym.net');>>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 27, 2014 7:19 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: {UAH} Proposals for Uganda’s post-NRM transitional
>> government
>>
>> EM,
>>
>> I will accept being naive!!! But if you believe that the peddlers of
>> the worst atrocities on our people were only Acholis, then you clean
>> the quarters of the naive!!!! Are you saying that the Langis were in
>> their beds making love to their women's while the Acholi ran riot?
>> You are not mentioning the Tesos!!!! How about 'Abaana ba Kintu'?!!!
>> Mention any tribe in Uganda, their hands are stained with blood in
>> Luwero. You keep forgetting those who have come out and confessed
>> that they are indeed culpable for some of the atrocities. Call
>> Otafire, the Constitutional Affairs minister!!
>>
>> When we go Eastern and Northern Uganda, who brought 'rains of terror'?
>> Well we now know, the Baganda brigades carried out the atrocious
>> criminality, at the command of Tutsis. The truth is dripping in that
>> after the death of Kayira and Nkwanga, their fighters were led to
>> carry out the retaliation in the East and North.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 27 Dec 2014, at 05:48, "Herrn Edward Mulindwa" <mulin...@look.ca
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mulin...@look.ca');>> wrote:
>>
>> Mwami Ssekajja
>>
>> The population of Acholi in Uganda is just about 4% or less. If only
>> 0.01 of them caused that kind of chaos in West Nile and Luwero
>> district, then the problem of Acholi in Uganda is way larger than I
>> have ben accepting, for if only 0.01 percent created that kind of
>> havoc, from removing Iddi Amin from power in 1979, to removing the
>> Obote 2 government from power, to targeting and murdering Langi
>> officers and soldiers that large in Uganda after Obote’s exit, to
>> raping women and children in Luwero and West Nile, and we are still
>> dealing with only a 0.01%, thank you for clarifying the problem of
>> Acholi that Uganda is facing.
>>
>> But let me say this too, just for this discussion, how long will it
>> take your naivety to raise the issue of those 0.01% to the Acholi
>> community to start working on it? I have stopped my entire forum
>> participation to only dwell on Acholi violence and the only thing I
>> have got from them is that Acholi are clean as a whistle, and any one
>> claiming that they are violent people is silly. How can we get that
>> 0.01% in line when their own are demanding my deportation now that I
>> have raised the violence? Friends with this kind of naivety, let us
>> all go home and buy shares into the funeral home industry for if all
>> Ugandans believe that 99.9% of Acholi are angles, when they have done
>> this kind of destruction in Luwero, in Kampala, in West Nile, and we
>> are still claiming their innocence, let Bazilio Okello resurrect and
>> lead what Matek defines as Mother puckers. I think I should go to bed
>> for this stupidity to wane off my conscious. And on record I do not
>> have a single child ever raped by Acholi so this actually is not my
>> God damn fight.
>>
>> Strange how Baganda became this suckers, for Ssekajja’s reasoning is
>> truly a Muganda reasonning !!!!!!!
>>
>> EM
>> On the 49th Parallel
>> Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri
>> Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
>> Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na
>> Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
>> machafuko"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com');>
>> [ mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com');>]
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 11:46 PM
>> *To:* ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com');>
>> *Cc:* <uganda...@yahoogroups.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','uganda...@yahoogroups.com');>>; <
>> ugandanet@kym.net
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ugandanet@kym.net');>>
>> *Subject:* Re: {UAH} Proposals for Uganda’s post-NRM transitional
>> government
>>
>> EM,
>>
>> The 99.99% Acholis in Acholiland were not responsible for the actions
>> of a small hired group of people who happened to be Acholis. The
>> worst abusers of human rights were from different tribes. In fact I
>> know two idiots, from my neighbourhood In Mbarara, who were notorious
>> for misbehaving when they came at home.
>>
>> Ssekajja
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 27 Dec 2014, at 04:00, "Herrn Edward Mulindwa" <mulin...@look.ca
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mulin...@look.ca');>> wrote:
>>
>> Mwami Ssekajja
>>
>> What individuals raped the women of Wet Nile, and from senior
>> citizens to
>> 9 year olds? What individuals raped women in Luwero and from senior
>> citizens to 9 year olds?
>>
>> EM
>> On the 49th Parallel
>> Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri
>> Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
>> Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na
>> Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
>> machafuko"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com');>
>> [ mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com');>]
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 10:53 PM
>> *To:* ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com');>
>> *Subject:* Re: {UAH} Proposals for Uganda’s post-NRM transitional
>> government
>>
>> *Good people,*
>>
>> *EM* is backing down, following a ferocious sustained attack from Rev.
>> Kamugisha. Hopefully the good folks in Acholi can have a lull from
>> the ridiculous accusations. It has been a good fight!!!
>>
>> You know my big brother Mazzimunva, aka Mulindwa, I like you, but we
>> have to.refrain from tribal overall accusations for the actions of
>> individuals.
>>
>> Ssekajja
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 26 Dec 2014, at 19:49, "Herrn Edward Mulindwa" <mulin...@look.ca
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mulin...@look.ca');>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Joseph Kamugisha
>>
>> When I began responding to your posts, I thought you were a true
>> Minister in the Church of Jesus Christ. But, on close examination I
>> realized that you are just a regular, therefore this is my last
>> response to you. I have no time for self-proclaimed Ministers who behave the
>> same way "bayaye"
>> do.
>> The church is supposed to be a Holy place and not a place where the
>> so-called men of the cloth stand and abuse members of the public.
>> When I say the Moshi conference was responsible for sabotaging Amin's
>> economic war I mean what I say. Moshi was the final arrangement to
>> get Amin out of the way. It was what could be referred to as the
>> "final solution". I do not know whether you still have the ability to
>> remember the past correctly and if you do, that will do some justice
>> to what I am going to remind you of.
>>
>> On the same day the first group of Ugandan Asians were leaving
>> Uganda, a plan to invade Uganda by Ugandan exiles based in Tanzania
>> was in place.
>> The plan was to fly in troops from Kilimanjaro airport to Entebbe.
>> And Museveni had claimed that he had 10,000 men ready on the ground
>> in Uganda who will give support. It turned out that was one of
>> Museveni's numerous fabrications. At the Kilimanjaro airport a
>> different situation developed, one of the tires of the plane went
>> burst. The plan was aborted. The plan was to sabotage the Indian
>> departure and yet it was Obote who had planned to expel them in the
>> first place. Amin's mistake was to say he had a dream to expel them
>> instead of saying he was implementing Obote's plan. As a matter of
>> fact all the three East African countries: Kenya, Tanzania and Uganda
>> had planned to expel the same people.
>>
>> What I fail to understand is why you blame Amin for transferring
>> Uganda's economy to the hands of Ugandans. What was the difference
>> between Ugandans wrestling the British and ordering them to give back
>> Ugandans their political independence and freedom and expelling the
>> Asians, they were all foreigners I thought !!!!! As to where I live
>> and do for a living is none of your business. I work 7 days a week
>> and good money to support my family.
>> Joseph Kamugisha, every human being has a different station in life
>> and what they do and where they live is their personal and private
>> life. I fail as well to understand how wise it is for Gwokto to go
>> after Somalis that way and I will leave that sentence exactly at
>> that. As I said before, small minds discuss people while great minds
>> discuss ideas. You and Gwokto share the same small minds. Look,
>> "Who drives a taxi in Toronto" is a title of study conducted on
>> immigrants in 2012. The study concluded that
>> 50,000 cab drivers are immigrants. 200 are doctors of PhDs. Do you
>> blame them for doing this as long as they are making money and able
>> to support their families? It is this false sense of pride that make
>> you collect money from friends and strangers to return your bodies
>> home for burial.
>> Somebody
>> who does not wear a suit, ties and carries a briefcase going to work
>> is not considered working according to your twisted brains and
>> reasoning. Amin showed you how to build your own nation instead of
>> depending on Indian
>> coolies. I have tried to respond to all you postings, but with this
>> response, Joseph Kamugisha I terminate my response to your bogus
>> reaction.
>> I am sorry but I am done.
>>
>> Enjoy the holidays
>>
>> EM
>> On the 49th Parallel
>> Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri
>> Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
>> Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na
>> Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
>> machafuko"
>>
>> *From:* ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com');>
>> [ mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com');>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Joseph Kamugisha
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 12:53 AM
>> *To:* ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com');>
>> *Cc:* uganda...@yahoogroups.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','uganda...@yahoogroups.com');>;
>> ugandanet@kym.net <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ugandanet@kym.net');>
>> *Subject:* RE: {UAH} Proposals for Uganda’s post-NRM transitional
>> government
>>
>> Mulindwa: Poor Mulindwa, are you suggesting that the Acholi are also
>> responsible for your ramshackled apartment where a great infestation
>> of rats, roaches and drug dealers are cohabitants with you? The next
>> thing am sure you will tell us is that you did not pass your PLE
>> because of the Acholi! You were forced to join the SRB because of
>> the Acholi. You deny your ethnicity because of the Acholi. Am sure
>> your asylum case was smeared with Acholi as your reason for approval.
>> Now that you have your asylum and that you have made a killing out of
>> these series, now what next?
>> Kamugisha
>> ------------------------------
>> From: mulin...@look.ca
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mulin...@look.ca');>
>> To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com');>
>> CC: uganda...@yahoogroups.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','uganda...@yahoogroups.com');>;
>> ugandanet@kym.net <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ugandanet@kym.net');>
>> Subject: {UAH} Proposals for Uganda’s post-NRM transitional
>> government
>> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 23:15:43 -0500 Joseph Kamugisha
>>
>> You are going into a discussion that you are clearly not prepared
>> for, and look I have taken a very long hard thinking to raise this
>> Acholi violence flag. One wonders how much time you have taken to go
>> after me. And why did I decide that it is time for me to raise at
>> them? Because actually Acholi did not bother me that much for they
>> were bums that never wanted to work, when you decide not to work it
>> affects only you and your family. But Acholi attacked my society and
>> forced it to change. And I will extrapolate. I grew up in a region
>> where toilets were mandatory to every house in Buganda through
>> Bulungi bwansi. Every Muganda house I have visited has a pit latrine.
>> In as much as Banyoro/Batooro still line up for a single crapper has
>> been built in Toro, in Buganda a home to be established it had to own
>> a pit latrine. Now the standard of those pit latrines depended on the
>> income class of the owner but every home had a place to ease
>> ourselves, that is how we were brought up.
>>
>> Because we did not have power supply in villages, using a pit latrine
>> became tough at night, so one had to call a friend in the house to
>> escort you to the pit latrine for it was dark. And that is how every
>> Muganda kid has grown up. Banange mumperekere ko ebweru njagala
>> kufuluma. Acholi changed that culture because they dawned massive
>> violence into our region that we stopped to use pit latrines in
>> Buganda due to sheer fear. And what do we use these days after The
>> Acholi violence? We use plastic basins to piss in at night. Joseph,
>> when you go back at how we grew up, to until the end of Iddi Amin
>> government, come 1979, Omuganda tafuka mu kataasa. No Muganda pisses
>> into a basin and slides his piss under a God damn bed and sleeps with
>> it inside the same room. Piss is bad and dirty and we deposit it into
>> the pit latrine where it so belongs. Acholi used violence to force us
>> to sleep with our shit under our own beds but to each and
>> individually to own a plastic basin for pissing into. What Muganda sleeps
>> with piss?
>> Yet
>> we do and we agreed to do so, because on your way going outside to
>> piss you have no idea where an Acholi is sitting just to stalk you
>> and come back with you in the house to rape you let alone murder you.
>> And do you know how they were forced to stalking the population?
>> Because we leant how to bolt the God damn doors. You put all cross
>> bars and all steel beams so that an Acholi does not enter to rape
>> your kids. All this narration might actually be nonsense to you, a
>> very reason we need an inquiry in Uganda about the Acholi violence,
>> you will be very surprised at how deep it walks in people’s lives.
>>
>> We all as Ugandans must stand up and block every available means that
>> came make Acholis come back to power in our country ever.
>>
>> EM
>> On the 49th Parallel
>> Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri
>> Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
>> Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na
>> Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
>> machafuko"
>>
>> *From:* ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com');>
>> [ mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com');>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Joseph Kamugisha
>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 25, 2014 9:30 PM
>> *To:* ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com');>
>> *Cc:* ugandanet@kym.net
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ugandanet@kym.net');>;
>> uganda...@yahoogroups.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','uganda...@yahoogroups.com');>
>> *Subject:* RE: {UAH} Proposals for Uganda’s post-NRM transitional
>> government
>>
>> Kalibulimba Mulindwa: Your hateful venomous attacks are only good in
>> the eyes of your cheerleaders. Your hatefulness heart coupled with
>> ignorance and stupidity cannot even allow you to notice that Okello
>> Oryem, one of the Acholi's that you hate, is more educated than all
>> your clan members put together, that is if you have any. And guess
>> what? His father is Okello Lutwa! If the Acholi are lazy as you would
>> want your cheerleaders to believe, what has made you to turn yourself
>> into a society burden in your host country Canada? The ramshackled
>> government apartments which you call home, where rats and all kinds
>> of crime are part of your neighborhood, is that the best environment
>> you want to raise your family in? I understand your daughter died of
>> some strange disease, are not to blame for having failed to provide a
>> safe environment for your late daughter? Discuss issues not
>> isolationism. Kamugisha
>> ------------------------------
>> From: mulin...@look.ca
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mulin...@look.ca');>
>> To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com');>
>> CC: ugandanet@kym.net
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ugandanet@kym.net');>;
>> uganda...@yahoogroups.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','uganda...@yahoogroups.com');>
>> Subject: {UAH} Proposals for Uganda’s post-NRM transitional
>> government
>> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 18:28:50 -0500 Eric Kashambuzi
>>
>> There are other important facts you need to include in the solution
>> you are writing. May be what we actually need in Uganda is the true
>> politics of exclusion, and here me out kindly. I have spent a whole
>> month going about the problem we have in Uganda of Acholi with
>> violence, but as I continue with that sector of population, Ugandans
>> must be built on using their hands and finding an income than being
>> lazy bums. And here are a good examples, Acholi men are very lazy
>> people, go up North and you will wonder at the amount of alcohol they
>> drink, it is simply unbelievable to a point that women are
>> complaining for men come home and are unable to sexually function. A
>> very high percentage of Acholi are actually drunkards. They thus
>> depend on militarism and violence. In as much as I want to raise
>> their violence so that we understand how to deal with it, we need to
>> start to educate them that a Ugandan can survive in Uganda without
>> being in the army and without violence, looting public property and
>> raping Uganda women.
>> They have been included in all Uganda politics right from before
>> independence, how has that done for them? What makes you believe that
>> if we include them today, they will change? Who excluded them during
>> the Tito Okello government? It was their very own government, and
>> what did they do?
>> They became drunkard rouges holding guns and raping women but looting
>> public property. I have just thrown out your entire inclusion solution.
>> Actually Uganda’s most brutal men as Tito Okello and John Ogole
>> inflicted massive pain to Ugandans after they actually got included
>> into the politics.
>>
>> Let me hand you a second example of lazy bums in Uganda. They are
>> actually Karamojong. These friends had a problem in their land and
>> many decided to show up in Kampala, they got a good start for when
>> you arrive into Kampala surely you can get a job and earn an income.
>> Karamojong have decided to get absorbed into Kampala but remain lazy
>> and do not want to work. Again as Acholi Karamojong have started to
>> be the best drunkards, the best wife abusers and the best baby
>> manufacturers. So he show up on Kampala road, he lives in a shanty
>> home under a tree, but his wife is always pregnant.
>> Many
>> homeless children in Kampala are actually Karamojong. Now watch as
>> they remain in Kampala and in Buganda you are going to start finding
>> a huge number of them registered into the army and Police, for they
>> do not care to die, but as Acholi they love good things through
>> looting, and they love beautiful Baganda women that they can so rape.
>> How will the politics of inclusion help these Ugandans?
>>
>> Let me hand you a third example of people that have changed. Did you
>> know that we all grew up in Buganda with Rwandese as laborers? A
>> Rwandese never asked for so much, just a permission to build a
>> Kasisira near the pit latrine and he lived into that for years and
>> years working on every garden on the village. That was the best
>> expectation from a Rwandese. Well guess what they have changed, that
>> today we are competing with them in applying for jobs, and we are
>> competing with them, in trade and investments and businesses.
>> Rwandese have stopped to be the official Uganda casual laborers, we
>> are very equal partners. Thy have built permanent homes which you
>> never saw in the 60’s. They’re taking their kids to good schools and
>> they are paying for the school fees which again you never saw in the
>> sixties. A Rwandese kid as Kagame went to school for my father was
>> paying poll tax. Before you push the politics of inclusion in Uganda,
>> your larger problem today is to change Acholi and Karamojong from
>> being lazy bums that produce liters of babies, and become productive
>> Rwandese. As generations go by, Rwandese are going to become tired of
>> politics and worry about their investments, why do you think they are
>> not going after Museveni today?
>> And
>> guess who are planning to attack Museveni militarily? George Okello.
>> What investment does he have in Uganda any ways? The ministry of
>> finance for it collects the taxes from every Ugandan and piles it up
>> into bank of Uganda.
>> He needs the God damn firkin key of the bank.
>>
>> We better get our act together and start discussing Uganda’s problem
>> candidly.
>>
>> EM
>> On the 49th Parallel
>> Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri
>> Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
>> Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na
>> Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
>> machafuko"
>> On Dec 25, 2014 8:45 AM, "Eric Kashambuzi" <kashambuzie...@gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kashambuzie...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>> The politics of exclusion and winner-take-all (zero sum-game) has not
>> worked well in Uganda since independence in 1962 and in many other
>> developing countries. Political exclusion has constrained access to
>> economic resources and social services by those in the opposition
>> leading to inequalities and consequent conflicts.
>> This matter of political exclusion has been taken up at the United
>> Nations negotiations for the post-2015 development agenda. Goal 16 of
>> the 17 Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs) calls for peaceful and
>> inclusive societies, rule of law, good governance and respect for
>> human rights and fundamental freedoms. It will form an integral part
>> of the development agenda from 2016 to 2030.
>> In Uganda there is general consensus that the politics of exclusion
>> should be replaced by an appropriate arrangement in the post-NRM
>> period. The current model also has concentrated power in the
>> presidency and at the center at the expense of regions which has come
>> under severe scrutiny because it has undermined the principles of
>> separation of powers among the legislative, executive and judicial
>> branches of government and the associated checks and balances and
>> federalism respectively. During consultations for the 1995
>> constitution, the majority of Ugandans called for a federal system of
>> government but was excluded from the constitution.
>> The idea of an all inclusive transitional government as a replacement
>> of the politics of exclusion was discussed by Ugandans at the July
>> 2011 Los Angeles conference that created United Democratic Ugandans
>> (UDU). Mubiru Musoke was elected chairperson to cover principally
>> constitutional matters.
>> Eric Kashambuzi was elected Secretary-General with mandate that
>> included diplomatic networking and civic education and matters
>> related to transitional government and proportional representation.
>> The transitional government that has the following proposed
>> characteristics and functions has enjoyed considerable support among
>> Ugandans at home and abroad.
>> 1. The transitional government should be inclusive of all
>> stakeholders including NRM so that no one is left behind;
>> 2. It should be led by a presidential team so that each region is
>> represented. Currently some regions are complaining that they have
>> been excluded from the highest office in the land. Members of the
>> team should be selected on the basis of agreed upon criteria which
>> must include impeccable character, sufficient knowledge and
>> experience to understand the intricacies of domestic and
>> international politics and economics. They must not participate in
>> the next elections as they would have the advantage of incumbency
>> over other candidates. (Following the death of Stalin of the Soviet
>> Union, a three-person team was appointed to run the affairs of state
>> at that difficult moment and subsequently replaced by Khruschev, a
>> non-member of the team). The chair of the team should rotate among
>> the members;
>> 3. During the transitional period whose duration should be based on
>> the tasks to be undertaken should not make major changes in the civil
>> service (civil service which is apolitical serves every government in
>> power).
>> 4. Besides the day-to-day management of state affairs, the
>> transitional government should strengthen the capacity of institutions.
>> To
>> avoid sectarianism which has plagued the civil service, a team of
>> public service commissioners should be appointed with each region
>> represented.
>> Furthermore, security forces should be managed by the chairperson of
>> the Joint Chiefs of Staff instead of one military official;
>> 5. It should conduct a comprehensive population census to know
>> exactly who we are and how many not only for political but more
>> significantly for development purposes;
>> 6. It should organize a national convention of all stakeholders to
>> debate and make recommendations about how Ugandans want to be governed.
>> 7. The transitional government should then organize free and fair
>> multi-party elections.
>> 8. To avoid protracted debate over which constitution – 1962, 1967 or
>> 1995 – to use, the government should be governed by a charter.
>> We call upon all Ugandans at home and in the Diaspora to comment on
>> these proposals – in line with the principles of transparency,
>> participation, ownership and accountability.
>> Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you all Eric Kashambuzi
>> December 25, 2014
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