Sorry, forgot to CC again!
>
> Gilbert Carl Herschberger II wrote:
> >
> > On Tuesday, 20 July 1999, Sean Cribbs wrote:
> > >I have Heise's code. It doesn't work on the new JDK.
> > >
> > >I am running JDK1.2.1 on Solaris 2.6.
> >
> > Either it runs all of the old code or it doesn't. People want code that
> > works. They don't want excuses. They want to hear that your code still
> > works. And it will survive the next half-dozen upgrades.
> >
> > I'm sorry the old code doesn't work. I don't want this kind of thing to
> > happen each time we upgrade to a new version of JOS. Sun Microsystems
> > believes that the new JDK is compatible enough to run all of the old code.
> > And then, they have a long, long list of exceptions.
> >
> > The old code I wrote doesn't work on the new JDK. I believe that this is a
> > threat to an open source project. Why should we write a bunch of code for
> > Java 2.0 (1.2) code if it isn't going to work on Java 3.0?
> >
> > It stings. It hurts. It's rude. Sun Microsystems should be ashamed of
> > themselves. They use a practice that doesn't work. It doesn't have to be
> > that way.
> >
> > That's why we should not immitate Sun Microsystems when we create a JOS
> > API. That is why it is so important to try to make long-lasting interfaces
> > for these JOS-related things.
> >
> > I don't know what else to do about it. I keep hammering away at the bad
> > attitudes. It is not acceptable to build reasonable incompatibility.
> > Reasonable incompatibility means that it doesn't have to work. Heise's code
> > should work today on a JDK 2.0 just as it did when it was written. Isn't
> > that what Write Once really means?
> >
>
> I didn't mean to be that harsh! There are two identifiable reasons why
> his code doesn't work on my JDK. The first is that all of the swing
> packages are named com.sun.java.swing.*, whereas Java2 uses
> javax.swing.*. The second is the same reason why I had trouble with
> creating my own toolkit: java.awt.Toolkit maintains a reference to the
> first initialized toolkit, preventing a subsitute toolkit from doing the
> job. I agree with your disgust over Sun's lack of backwards and
> forwards compatibility, but that's not the type of discussion (or
> argument) I meant to start!
>
> Sean cribbs
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