I was literally just typing the same response,  in order to stay under the Long 
Fat Network (LFN) definition you need to be under 100microSeconds RTT, which 
unless the line is sub 15Km even without hardware switching and processing 
times. Then you're into TCP tuning etc to try and improve that.

Your microwave link will likely (I assume) be within that kind of distance 
which means with the same TCP scaling you're seeing higher throughput

UDP should prove this as you don't require the ACK and the data can just be 
fired down the line fire-and-forget style

Matthew




From: uknof <uknof-boun...@lists.uknof.org.uk> On Behalf Of Andy Hunter
Sent: 28 May 2020 16:44
To: Wojciech Lesiak <wojciech.les...@gmail.com>; Paul Bone <paul@pmb.technology>
Cc: UK Network Operators Forum <uk...@uknof.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [uknof] BT Net Lease line issues.


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Hi Wojciech

As previously asked have you tried UDP as this could be a bandwidth delay 
product problem with the latency limiting the TCP Sliding Window.

Cheers

Andy

Kind Regards

Andy
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From: uknof 
<uknof-boun...@lists.uknof.org.uk<mailto:uknof-boun...@lists.uknof.org.uk>> on 
behalf of Wojciech Lesiak 
<wojciech.les...@gmail.com<mailto:wojciech.les...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 4:37:37 PM
To: Paul Bone <paul@pmb.technology<mailto:paul@pmb.technology>>
Cc: UK Network Operators Forum <uk...@uknof.org.uk<mailto:uk...@uknof.org.uk>>
Subject: Re: [uknof] BT Net Lease line issues.

Hi,
I've never used queue to rate-limit download.Line has been upgraded both ways 
because with 10 parallel downloads, I can max out line to 960Mbit.

Regards,

Wojciech

Paul Bone wrote on 28/05/2020 16:32:

Hi Wojciech,

That sounds suspiciously like the 500M to 1G upgrade has only been configured 
in one direction to me. I have seen this done many times - some providers more 
frequently than others.

The CCR will happily pass that traffic all day, but does it have a queue 
configured to rate-limit the download?

Paul

On Thu, 28 May 2020 at 16:16, Wojciech Lesiak 
<wojciech.les...@gmail.com<mailto:wojciech.les...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Paul,

As a main router I am using Mikrotik CCR1036-12G-4S, BGP with full tables, two 
esxi servers connected to it directly and few other servers, also company 
network and few gigabit microwave links, one to my home so I can work remotely
.  Over the microwave links I can achieve full speed for both upload and 
download (inside my network) using iperf3. I can also utilize full upload. But 
same with download. To be honest I have 1Gb leased line in different location 
from different carrier and I do not have such problem with bandwidth speed. I 
am really surprised as I just did an upgrade from 500Mbit to 1Gb.

Regards,

Wojciech



Paul Bone wrote on 28/05/2020 15:54:

Hi,

Have you tried using UDP over TCP on iperf?

This could also be caused by the device you are using unable to process the 
speeds - have you tried a back to back iperf test directly between two devices 
before putting them over the leased line?

Paul

On Thu, 28 May 2020 at 15:46, Wojciech Lesiak 
<wojciech.les...@gmail.com<mailto:wojciech.les...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi all,

I have 1Gb lease line from BT Net and I have an issue with download speed for 
one thread download, I can't achieve more than 500Mbit over it, but upload with 
one thread is going full speed. To do my test I am using iperf3 also perfsonar 
with same results. I have reported it as a fault but they said if I want to 
utilize full speed I have to use multi thread download. I do not believe that 
is right. What can I do about it?

Regards,

Wojciech Lesiak
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