I hate this sort:
Club Mix 2000
Club Mix 98
Club Mix 99
Those non Y2K compliant fools!
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Well, I guess what you say is true,
I could never be the right kind of girl for you,
I could never be your woman
- White Town
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$BF|;~(B: 01/09/10 17:09
$B7oL>(B: Re: [OT] o-circumflex
>There is a similar problem with Swedish:
>
>Our alphabet goes:
>
>a
>...
>u
>v & w (no difference made)
>x
>y
>z
>$B%F!&(B
>$B%F!"(B (the Danish/Norwegian "$B%F%r(B" is also sorted as "$B%F!"(B")
>$B%F%+(B (the Danish/Norwegian "$B%F%/(B" is also sorted as "$B%F%+(B")
>
>The German character "$B%F%7(B" is pronunciated as a Swedish "y," so when any
>German name or loan word containing that character occurs in Swedish it
>should be sorted as "y." However, if any "$B%F%7(B" occurs in a Dutch loan word it
>is considered as an "u" with umlaut and is sorted as "u."
>
>The same goes for "$B%F!"(B" and "$B%F%+(B": If they are the
>Swedish/Finnish/German
>letters "$B%F!"(B" and "$B%F%+(B" they are sorted after "$B%F!&(B," if they are
>the Dutch letters
>"a" with umlaut and "o" with umlaut, they're sorted as "a" and "o" in a
>Swedish encyclop$B%F%r(Bdia.
>
>In Swedish the Danish/Norwegian letter "$B%F%r(B" is sorted as "$B%F!"(B," while
>the
>Latin/Icelandic letter "$B%F%r(B" is sorted as "ae."
>
>Stefan
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mark Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Michael (michka) Kaplan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Keld J$B%F%/(Brn Simonsen"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: den 10 september 2001 17:27
>Subject: Re: [OT] o-circumflex
>
>
>> Michael, that isn't the point. There is a problem even when you stick to
>one
>> language.
>>
>> That is, there are situations where two letters in a language, e.g. "ch"
>in
>> Slovak, are normally sorted as one. However, in some exceptional
>> circumstances those letters should be sorted separated. It could be
>because
>> they come originally from another language, or it could be because they
>> happen to arise when two other words are conjoined. There is no
>algorithmic
>> distinction. So without some special character, it would require a
>> dictionary look-up to produce the right sort
>>
>> For example, suppose that "th" were sorted separately in English, after Z.
>> Yet people would expect the following order:
>>
>> cast
>> cathouse
>> caul
>> cathode
>>
>> because the "t" and "h" are logically separate in "cathouse".
>>
>> Mark
>> $Bc`Hd?Hd?Hd?Hd?!&(B>>
>> $B%[?%^8P%5%[%5c`!&b>?%^?%[%C%^&Q!&%"%^!&%=(B $Bb>HQ"P%&%[%"(B,
>$B%[%3%[%"%[%3bA%+%^!&%[%(c`!&b>?%^?%[%C%^&Q!&%"%^!&%=(B $B%^?%[%c%[%9%^!&%"(B
>$Bc`!&bA%1%[%7%[%g%^"P%=%^!&%[XP%"%^"P%&%[%C%^!&%=!&(B>> [http://www.macchiato.com]
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michael (michka) Kaplan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Keld J$B%F%/(Brn Simonsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 5:48 AM
>> Subject: Re: [OT] o-circumflex
>>
>>
>> > From: "Keld J$B%F%/(Brn Simonsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >
>> > > Real-life sorts, like MS Windows sorting or Linux sorting, actually
>> > adheres
>> > > to these Danish rules, once you have set up your machine for Danish.
>> >
>> > And this is the *true* answer to the whole mess of attempting
>> *multilingual*
>> > sorts -- once the user chooses the sort they WANT, the system might
>handle
>> > other language strings in a way that might be obscure to those who know
>> the
>> > other language but the person who expected Danish or whatever will see
>> what
>> > they want.
>> >
>> > Since various sorts openly conflict with each other there is no other
>> > general case solution which would be appropriate, anyway?
>> >
>> > (can't believe this thread is still going on!)
>> >
>> >
>> > MichKa
>> >
>> > Michael Kaplan
>> > Trigeminal Software, Inc.
>> > http://www.trigeminal.com/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
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