On 17/03/2004 04:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dear all,
The discussions, esp. the one on "dotless i" brought a question up my mind:

Why doesn't capital J have a dot above?

Actually, my feeling is that as a kid, I used to put a dot on top of J during 
elementary school in Turkey. But as I stated in the subject I am investigating. I need 
to ask some experts on this field. My only evidence is a present from the 1920s:
http://www.geocities.com/onganer/images/altin_alfabe.jpg
(The problem with this alphabet is that i and dotless i should exchange places for 
collation purposes)

Coming back to my question and actually extending it: Why doesn't capital I and J have a dot above?

My mathematical logic thinks that it should have a dot since it is the same but just bigger. Of course, there must be some ethical, socialogical explanations.

I would be happy to know about some references for the evolution of the Latin Alphabet. Also, do countries have laws that state what kind of alphabet they should use? Or do they rely on trust and best practice?

Regards,
Cag Onganer

P.S.: I do remember putting dot on the capital I in an English course and failing the test because of that.






Good question! There is an interesting example of how J (then representing what is now the Y sound in English and Turkish) was written in the old Azeri Latin alphabet, in 1929. See the bottom left image (with the train) http://www.azer.com/aiweb/categories/magazine/81_folder/81_articles/81_mollanasraddin.html. You can barely tell from the web version of this satirical image, but it is clear from the printed copy I have, that there is a dotless capital J in the printed text on the very top line (Janvar = January), but a dotted capital J in the slogan at the bottom which reads "ÆRÆB ÆLIFBASÆ JORYL[...] KALDÆ" ("The Arabic alphabet has grown tired"). The slogans on the train are "JENÄ ÆLIFBA KABAKLADÆ" ("The new alphabet has gone ahead") and "MÉdÉni ÄNKLAB" ("Cultural revolution" - this was the Soviet era.) But I can't see if there are dots on the J on the train.

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