Kent Karlsson wrote [2012-01-02 22:03+0100]: > Except that MacOS X *applications* (as apart from more POSIXy programs, > and Terminal.app) should not use the POSIX locales, but should use the > CLDR locales (via an Apple API or via ICU)... (Yes, I know, CLDR have > POSIX locales format files covering **some** of the CLDR data...) Well, i've got good hardware and i've got a great operating system, but unfortunately my prepaid internet stick is dongled with software and that doesn't support the latter, but only a fruit ... and that (but i dunno) UTF-16 thing with the 2-byte wchar_t. (And to be honest - my beloved OS does not really support Unicode yet. Blow fish.) I don't know what you are talking about, vim(1) works fine even here.
> And ISO 8859-15? Really? I don't even find it in the list of encodings > Terminal.app supports (but maybe that is just me not finding it). > Terminal.app by default uses UTF-8. If our french friend wants to do some sorting, and doesn't have any programming capabilities (in which case i would point him to use perl(1), since those guys actually love Unicode - and even their users, too; maybe they make it and do completely penetrate the former, because they're real heroes), then $ LC_ALL=xy cut(1) colrm(1) sort(1) whatever_pipe should be a flexible way to sort data in the mentioned language, and which takes three button clicks only! (Applications -> Utilities -> Terminal.app == 3!!) > And ISO 8859-15? Really? ,P But i admit, i use ':read !echo $LC_ALL' -> en_GB.UTF-8, and i'm a fanatic fan of Unicode, not at last since it enables me to use my Klingon mother tongue here on earth, and with vim(1)!! And the € sign is just working, so nobody can tell lies about political pressure or even power politics or similar PEEEEP. Maybe the plain C standard, which is about to cover a garbage collector and a graphical user interface (C 2013.42), will also offer a graphical dialog box where users can directly fine-tune all behaviours of character data. That would be nice, and a real improvement. No, our french friend will need additional data from http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/share/mklocale/ anyway, and the UTF-8 data can be downloaded from just the very same locations, if necessary. I introduced the missing colldef(1) part and some locations were he can download the necessary locale sources from. For free. But with some effort. P.S.: And one thing i really need to add. That Ecartis mailing list manager does not conform to any just any standard. Since *decades* there are RFC 934 and RFC 1153, and it gives a PEEP. And it even seems to mess up 'From 's. That doesn't say anything about Unicode itself, though. Have a good time. --steffen