2015-05-04 19:49 GMT+02:00 Asmus Freytag (t) <[email protected]>:
> On 5/4/2015 10:32 AM, Philippe Verdy wrote: > > So the Unicode and ISO/IEC 10646 have only chosen to use and publish a > single stable identifier throughout the standardization process; even if it > is bad, it will be kept. These names are not designed to be even suitable > for all English users (and just consider how CJK sinograms are named, they > are not suitable for anyone...). > > > There are open projects (outside Unicode and even outside CLDR itself) > to provide common character names in various locales. > > > I'm sure there are - there may even be work on a character picker, but do > you have any links? > That list is wide open, some projects will start others will end. Freqently they will change the names shown in previous versions... But you may just stat by looking in Wikipedia that frequently has articles in lots of languages, and that provide external links. All editions are also listing various aliases. Even during the standardisation process, there were multiple names discussed, but for tracking discussions and allowing plain text searches to find the related discussions, before the character was finally encoded, the technical identifier coming from a formal proposal was kept. Sometimes for some characers there were competing proposals, but once one of these formal has passed an early stage of balloting, this name is stable and should not change (unless an alias was already listed in the accepted proposal and it has been found that it was more frequently used in other early discussions. A limited number of proposed names are considered, and proper localisation is definitely not a goal at this early stage: it would have been impossible to produce the standard and encode so many characters if it was needed to provide accurate names matching exactly the mosts frequent uses (or some more rare uses, or future uses that will be made once the character will be encoded). For getting lists of character pickers, we have the choice in various kind of applications: accessories for desktop OSes, word processor tools, web sites, wikis, articles in online forums and blogs, books and facsimiles (PDF, DejaVu, photos...), spreadsheets, input method editors and custom keyboard layouts for onscreen input (or input on touch devices...). The choice is unlimited and expands everyday. Even without developing applications, users are inventive and will name the characters as they want in their informal discussions, mails, chats, SMS, tweets... The Unicode namelists are just a basic set of properties, and its names are just technical identifiers part of these properties where translation (or even translatability, even in English) is definitely not a goal. Another way to say it: « You don't like these "names" ? Great! in fact none of us really like them. Develop your own list of names, publish it, and try convincing others to use your list! »
