John,

I think this may be giving the list a somewhat misleading picture of the actual statistics for encoding of CJK unified ideographs. The "500 characters a year" or "1000 characters a year" limits are administrative limits set by the IRG for national bodies (and others) submitting repertoire to the "working set" that the IRG then segments into chunks for processing to prepare new increments for actual encoding.

In point of fact, if we take 1991 as the base year, the *average* rate of encoding new CJK unified ideographs now stands at 3379 per annum (87,860 as of Unicode 10.0). By "encoding" here, I mean, final, finished publication of the encoded characters -- not the larger number of potentially unifiable submissions that eventually go into a publication increment. There is a gradual downward drift in that number over time, because of the impact on the stats of the "big bang" encoding of 42,711 ideographs for Extension B back in 2001, but recently, the numbers have been quite consistent with an average incremental rate of about 3000 new ideographs per year:

5762 added for Extension E in 2015

7463 added for Extension F in 2017

~ 4934 to be added for Extension G, probably to be published in 2020

If you run the average calculation including Extension G, assuming 2020, you end up with a cumulative per annum rate of 3200, not much different than the calculation done as of today.

And as for the implication that China, in particular, is somehow limited by these numbers, one should note that the vast majority of Extension G is associated with Chinese sources. Although a substantial chunk is formally labeled with a "UK" source this time around, almost all of those characters represent a roll-in of systematic simplifications, of various sorts, associated with PRC usage. (People who want to check can take a look at L2/17-366R in the UTC document registry.)

--Ken


On 3/5/2018 7:13 AM, via Unicode wrote:
Dear All,

to simplify discussion I have split the points. <unicode@unicode.org [1]





On 2018/03/01 12:31, via Unicode wrote:

Third, I cannot confirm or deny the "500 characters a year" limit, but
I'm quite sure that if China (or Hong Kong, Taiwan,...) had a real need
to encode more characters, everybody would find a way to handle these.


Chinese characters for Unicode first go to IRG (or ISO/IEC JTC1/SC2/WG2/IRG) website. The limit of 500 a year for China is an average based on IRG #48 document regarding working set 2017 http://appsrv.cse.cuhk.edu.hk/~irg/irg/irg48/IRGN2220_IRG48Recommends.pdf which explicitly states "each submission shall not exceed 1,000 characters". The People's Republic of China as one member of IRG is limited to 1,000 characters, which hopefully we can all agree has a population of over 1,000,000,000 , therefore was limited to submitting at most 1,000 characters. The earliest possible date for the next working set is two or three years later, that is 2019 or 2020, so that's an average limit of either 500 or 333 characters a year.

Regards
John





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