Oh they are real bad. You need a 6 Cyl engine to survive.
Try Route 309 in Montgomery County. That has the worst onramps.
By the way, no concete fell on me this am ::

-Mark

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From: "Dubin, Elisabeth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Feb 5, 2004 6:56 AM
To: Mark Krull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [UC] South Street Bridge

What are the chances that when they eventually rebuild the bridge, that the onramps to 
the expressway would be reconfigured?  I have only been in Philadelphia for about four 
years, but one of the first things I noticed about driving around here is that those 
onramps are BAD, both north and south.  We call it "The Death Merge" and it involves a 
driver driving, yelling, "can I go?  can I go? can I go?" and the passenger craning to 
see over the concrete divider and saying, "uhhh uuhhh uuhhhh wait... uhh... OK FLOOR 
IT!!! GO!" and the whole thing is really scary.  Since they're dangerous, have these 
ramps ever been discussed here?



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From: Mark Krull [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 6:08 AM
To: Paul Grossman; William H. Magill; Dan Myers
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gail Defendorf
Subject: Re: [UC] South Street Bridge


INDEED!!
Well lets see if it closes the surekill this am!!

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From: Paul Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Feb 4, 2004 11:55 PM
To: "William H. Magill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
        Dan Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gail Defendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [UC] South Street Bridge

Yeah well the bridge may be structurally sound but that doesn't stop
concrete from falling on the expressway below.  They were damn lucky that it
didn't happen during rush hour.  This is number 2 for them being lucky.
Next time they may not be so lucky.  They keep saying how structurally sound
it is but I sure as hell am not going to be driving under that bridge
anytime soon.

-Paul Grossman

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From: "William H. Magill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Dan Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Gail Defendorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: [UC] South Street Bridge


> On 04 Feb, 2004, at 16:08, Dan Myers wrote:
> > Why doesn't PENNDOT, or whoever deals with this type of failure,
> > realize
> > this is a MAJOR problem that should be dealt with NOW! This is not the
> > first
> > time concrete has fallen off that bridge. What are they waiting for?
> > Someone
> > to die, some lawsuit that the city can't afford? It's ludicrous,
> > ridiculous,
> > and just plain stupid that PENNDOT has been putting off this
> > reconstruction
> > project. Last I heard, the city postponed construction from the summer
> > of
> > 2003 to the spring of 2006 of this bridge.
>
> As far as I know, the bridge has always been scheduled for replacement
> in FY 2006, which begins in July of 2005.
>
> The fact that concrete is flaking off and that there are holes in the
> pedestrian walkways has nothing to do with the "structural integrity"
> of the bridge. That is sound.  If the flaking continues to be an issue,
> they will put up netting under the bridge to catch the flakes. (One
> reporter claimed they were doing that this morning, but I haven't been
> down to see what was done.)
>
> As I understand it, when the bridge is being replaced, it will be
> completely shut down -- for the duration of construction -  1-2 years.
>
> T.T.F.N.
> William H. Magill
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