Calling Penn progrssive would be as great a misnomer as calling McDonald's food Jim
On 4/19/05, Dubin, Elisabeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, you're right, Taco Bell is probably food. > > But I don't think we should "let them eat plastic." That's not very > progressive. > > > ELISABETH DUBIN > Hillier ARCHITECTURE > One South Penn Square, Philadelphia, PA 19107-3502 | T 215 636-9999 | F > 215 636-9989 | hillier.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:15 PM > To: Dubin, Elisabeth; UnivCity@list.purple.com > Subject: Re: [UC] Sad commentary > > I object to you calling taco Bell not food. It is more healthy than most > fast food chains. They use real tomatoes, lettuce (although not at > tasty), corn tortillas, and real beans. I don't think there is anything > really edible in a McDonalds milkshake or burger either, but students > like putting this stuff in their mouths. It might be a healthy way for > the long term residents to support local restaurants and the > not-so-local residents to support corporate America. And since there are > lines at all of the mentioned Mexican places it seems like Taco Bell > would serve those people who don't have taste buds. There are many > students who just don't care-- let them eat the cake (or in this > instance, plastic). > > Dan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dubin, Elisabeth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Dan Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <UnivCity@list.purple.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:03 PM > Subject: RE: [UC] Sad commentary > > Of course you are allowed to voice your opinion. But we have an obesity > issue these days, not to mention hypertension and high cholesterol. > Sorry, but since some people out there don't know that this crap is > hardly food at all (given how unhealthy it is) I think the more of these > places there are the more the trickery continues. It's not FOOD!!! > Just because it's in a restaurant doesn't mean it's food. (It's people. > Hah hah.) > > ELISABETH DUBIN > Hillier ARCHITECTURE > One South Penn Square, Philadelphia, PA 19107-3502 | T 215 636-9999 | F > 215 636-9989 | hillier.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Myers > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 3:39 PM > To: UnivCity@list.purple.com > Subject: Re: [UC] Sad commentary > > I understand the importance of eating at local mom and pop stores, and I > frequent them often. But I actually agree that U of P should have some > "fast food" chains that international and national students are > accustomed to. > Places like KFC, and Taco Bell may attract the wrong kind of people Penn > wants in their neighborhood, but they are all relatively inexpensive for > a quick meal. Also, you know what you are expecting. > > As a side note, I have been asking my Uncle (who owns most of the KFC's > and Taco Bells you are referring to) to put one in University city. He > was having a hard time with Penn wanting only family-based businesses > around. > Well, there's a problem with that. Once you force all the low to middle > income families out of the Penn area (because that is exactly what > you'll do with only snobby over priced restaurants), Penntrification > will be here at last! But to the opposite extreme. I think there needs > to be a equal amount (or at least proportionate amount) of all kinds of > restaurants. And the fact is, there is not one KFC, Taco Bell, Burger > King, Wendy's, White Castle, Arthur treacher's, Bob's Big Boys, Denny's, > Arby's, Chik-Filet, Pizza Hut, or other common fast food place you can > normally find anywhere else but in the immediate University City > District. So I actually support some other options that students can go > to. > > I am sure to get some emails regarding my opinion. But I am allowed to > voice it even if it doesn't match yours. > > Dan Myers > 215.901.0899 > Certified Massage Practitioner > ----------------------------------------------- > "Healing is related to our capacity to experience and embrace life as it > is. Often this means accepting the unacceptable, making peace with > disintegration, and loving whatever we face." > -Rachel Harris, MD > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dubin, Elisabeth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mark Krull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ben" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <UnivCity@list.purple.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:43 AM > Subject: RE: [UC] Sad commentary > > > Who cares about "the element"? If anyone would care, it would be the > > university, and clearly they don't have a problem with the idea of > > attracting "the element." I'm totally grossed out by the idea of > those > > food choices going into the Moravian, and it's not out of snobbery -- > > KFC and Taco Bell food make me actually nauseous. But more > importantly, > > THEY ARE TOTALLY BAD FOR YOU "(especially the KFC) and the university > > should realize that students with little time and money will go there > as > > the path of least resistance. The leadership owes it to their own > > student body to provide healthier options, I mean, it's like setting > up > > a liquor store next to an AA clinic. Jeez. I can't get over it. You > > would also think the university would try to de-franchise their image > - > > I mean, what do they have on Walnut now? A GAP, an Ann Taylor Loft, a > > Barnes-and-Noble-student-bookstore, a COSI... The only non-franchised > > stuff there is the White Dog and Avril 50. Am I wrong in thinking > that > > a college town should have, god forbid, character? I'm going to cut > and > > paste this mini-tirade and send it to the DP. > > > > P.S. Let the record show that I agree with Al (!). > > > > > > ELISABETH DUBIN > > Hillier ARCHITECTURE > > One South Penn Square, Philadelphia, PA 19107-3502 | T 215 636-9999 | > F > > 215 636-9989 | hillier.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Krull > > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:09 AM > > To: Ben; UnivCity@list.purple.com > > Subject: Re: [UC] Sad commentary > > > > It might be that they are not as upscale and might invite the > "element" > > Thats my guess > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Apr 19, 2005 8:59 AM > > To: UnivCity@list.purple.com > > Subject: Re: [UC] Sad commentary > > > > At 08:01 AM 4/19/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>Today's DP has an article about what's going into the commercial space > >>at 34th & Walnut to replace the Moravian cafe etc. IM(not so)HO, it's > >>either a sad commentary on the penn Administration for thinking this > is > > > >>the way to serve the University and surrounding Communites, or a sad > >>commentary on the University and surrounding communities for this > being > > > >>what they actually want. > > > > I must be sad because I'm happy about the choices of what is moving > in. > > While I've never been to Quiznos, I'm happy to see some of the fast > food > > I enjoy eating being in the area. The KFC at 45th and market is scary > > and the one on Broad & whatever isn't the best. I frequent the T-Bell > > on City line which is nice but I'm happy not to have to drive that far > > when I'm craving these places. While these aren't places I say I go > to > > often, it's nice to have them close. > > > > What is the issue you have with them? > > > > -Ben > > > > ---- > > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named > > "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see > > <http://www.purple.com/list.html>. > > > > ---- > > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named > > "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see > > <http://www.purple.com/list.html>. > > > > > > > > ---- > > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the > > list named "UnivCity." 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