Jensen, Shannon wrote:
In response to laserbeam: (well, one problem is that we had to read it
in the dp to know about it, another problem is you asking this list now
what the community wants.)


I am not asking what the community wants, I am just sick of people
attacking things without actually discussing the things being attacked
(ie all of the talk of reparations and the inane bill concerning
profiting from slavery)- you say this article is an example of so many
horrible, evil things without actually saying what any of those horrible
things are... as for reading it in the DP- I think the community should
be consulted as to what actually goes there but the process is far from
that- the truth of the matter is you have little sway in them redoing
that half block (penn owns it and every person who walks past there
could tell you it should be redone to better suit the mostly student
population around it) so why should you be consulted?  Would you expect
to not have it redeveloped?  The need is clear, how that need is filled
should be a consultative process, but again- we are right now far from
that point.


see, right there above, where you say that the community should be consulted? but that the truth of the matter is that we have little sway? and then you call that a 'process'? that's a problem.

neither you nor I are in a position to ask now what the community should want in terms of who's living in their homes. that question's already been decided by penn's 2001 campus development master plan. and neither you nor I are in a position to question (or applaud, for that matter) any outcomes for the 40th street area development until we've read about it in the dp. and neither you nor I designed or led the 'process' of 'civic governance' that penn put in place in 2004 to 'have dialog' about any of this.

but, aside from all that, I have to confess, I think the biggest problem in all this is deciding whether or not the taco bell down at 3401 walnut will be really REALLY mexican.

.........
laserbeam®
[aka ray]
will this post die if it eats that burrito?









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