[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 6/25/2007 3:57:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes (to Sali):

    Currently, the folks on the Board are footing the majority of the
bill for clean and safe efforts in wide areas of University City. Do you think they'll keep doing that

Wouldn't it depend on the extent to which the various parties are being honest about their intentions and agendas, and the corresponding goals for what a Special Services District (SSD) might be constituted to achieve, whether there's a real "partnership" between Penn (and the other institutions) and the community, the degree to which a NID might get back on the table after an appropriate SSD proved itself competent to be the NIDMA, and factors like that. Personally, I'd like to see an SSD emerge that got back to the basics of "clean and safe" and dropped the marketing, development, and social engineering roles that made the UCD so popular with the few anointed and unpopular with the many benighted, and also operated in a transparent manner -- both functionally and fiscally -- so that people either had confidence that the organization knew what people really wanted and understood the value of a dollar that most people have to work to earn, or their deficiencies in this area were obvious enough that they be shown the door. The above at the policy level, perhaps subject to open deliberations and stakeholder input (and not at the dog-and-pony forums with agendas framed by Harris-squared), long before the selection of a new Executive Director. This way, a person could be recruited -- perhaps locally, perhaps globally -- with a track record in implementing the newly redefined policies and in adapting to rather than trying to reshape the situation on the ground.
I generally agree with Al here, because he does understand what an SSD and an NID would have to accomplish-- even _before_ it got started. The big issue is simply getting money. A community can organize an SSD or NID with the best of intentions and community support. But if it can't _show_ that it can deliver on the services, it's not going to get any money from any big donors, which are needed to "prime the pump," so to speak. Which means it's not going to attract a lot of community-derived financial support, either.

Al and I would probably disagree on what constitutes 'the basics' and "social engineering.' Many of the basics _are_ social engineering: picking up trash on a regular basis has social effects. We keep Clark Park as clean and well-maintained as we can because, when the park turns shitty, it affects the quality of life of the rest of the neighborhood. NIDs aren't created merely to compensate for declining city services; part of their reason for being is to strategize the way communities will grow and change in the foreseeable future. It may be something simple and prosaic (more streetside trees because the ones we have are dying), or it may be something more business-like (we want to attract certain kinds of businesses, like artists' shops or software companies or child-oriented stores). And marketing is an essential part of this. At the very least, it can offer local businesses a sort of advertising co-op, where economies of scale operate (advertise many businesses at once).

The Executive Director described above is kind of a paradox. On the one hand, we want community-based direction. But we're asking for a great Executive Director to implement it. It's sort of like saying that we want a democracy, so we must find a Great Man to rule it. It's _possible_-- I've got a soft spot for FDR as an example-- but even _he_ had to put up with a lot of yelping cranks who saw no good in what he accomplished.
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