In a message dated 7/30/07 11:45:03 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > ......Kyle didn't start the UCNeighbor list because he was being > childish or selfish and walking away with his bat and ball. He started it > because > the communication on this listserv is becoming petty, myopic and insulting. > It's also becoming a crowded room (virtually speaking) with some loud voices > trying to drown out the once speaking in a normal tone. Some people do act > like they own this list and like to think that they can dictate and frame the > conversation and debates that occur here. Many people have started doing the > serial deleting of [UC]-labelled emails, because it's become less relevant > and > helpful to the average UC resident. I don't know about you, but this puts > people a hair-trigger away from leaving the listserv and the community > discussion that occurs here. No one is excluded or protected on Kyle's new > listserv > either. You can still take the conversation there, if you want to, and your > bat > and ball. > > This weekend, the heavy-handed people on the purple list found out that their readers now have the option to move away, and clearly, they don't want that to happen. So - did they offer to moderate their language and help develop a set of guidelines? No, they became even more heavy-handed! Several attacked Bruce Anderson for suggesting guidelines. Some even tried to blame Jon Herrmann, who wrote that he had not read the last 13,000 emails posted on the purple list in the last 15 months - now, that shows how involved HE is, doesn't it? Some renewed conspiracy theories, one generated new spoof posts, and as usual, a small but noisy group attacked the person who saw a need to do something and actually DID it.
But, why should we be stuck with a dysfunctional list which will not change? I came in for criticism for saying it would be heaven to be on a list without one particularly voluminous ranter who has focused on me, sometimes alarmingly. Why would I want to be on a list with member who sends out fantasy emails about what he wants to have happen to me in Clark Park? Why would I recommend that the buyers and sellers I work with join a listserv where they'd read that kind of stuff with my name in it, where a neighborhood fanatic would single me out for ridicule though I've never even met the man? Is it any surprise I think it will be "heaven" to be on a list where that sort of email isn't likely to be tolerated? Kyle CAN ban that individual on the new list, but he won't, if the individual is civil to his fellow list members. Anyone can sign up, and the archives are public, so even non members can read what's written. There's no conspiracy and lots of transparency. I'm afraid that "spoof" addresses have been posted more often than the actual one for Kyle's new list, so I'll include it again here to counteract the usual poster of misinformation. http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighbors - Melani Lamond ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
