In a message dated 8/9/2007 1:00:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Just  because Penn as an institution fails to meet acceptable standards in 
real  estate development, community planning or education projects, is it right 
 
to tar and feather their academic courses that deal seriously with these  
issues?


That's a good point, Andy.
 
It begs several questions. Among these are:
    1.  Why doesn't Penn as an institution have enough confidence in those on 
its  academic staff to have them oversee what the folks interfering with the  
community are doing? 
    2.  In the case of Penn Praxis, where the community engagement 
facilitators  are indeed on the academic staff, what accounts for someone like 
Andrew  
Goodman throwing a tantrum in print about the fact that his agenda didn't get  
media coverage -- while the tenor of the meeting in question showed that the  
community was not especially interested in that agenda? 
    3.  What actual practical results can the "experts" on the academic side  
show? 
    4.  Are the people designing and running these courses and seminars  
intellectually honest enough to discuss the many failures of top-down planning  
and caution their students against believing that somehow their privileged  
positions may be hindrances in dealing with strata of society they may not  
understand and are highly likely to disdain? 

Always at  your service & ready for a dialog,
Al Krigman -- 36-year local  resident, housing provider, curmudgeon, and 
all-around  crank,




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