[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
    My point was in regards to whether or not it's
    more beneficial to the process and the community for the developer to
    know the concerns of the community prior to the meeting.

If Penn or it's developer (Lussenhop) wanted to know the concerns of the community -- ostensibly to get inputs and engage in a dialog to reach some kind accommodation -- they/he would have presented some basic ideas then held one or more community forums prior to starting the "legal" processes into motion. Getting this information the way he did, under the table -- as it were -- is just a way to prepare for objections, not to understand concerns and try to work with people who are worried about the implications as they affect the quality of their lives.


this whole question of stephen's is rather odd, and I think you and glenn and others have shown pretty clearly why.

what isn't clear yet is whether anyone else from the community or this list received an email from the developer, tom lussenhop. others besides karen heenan have written comments on this list (and in the university city review) about the proposed hotel. have they been contacted by lussenhop?

also, in tom lussenhop's response to karen, he said there's been 'a lot of meetings.' can anyone here tell us where the community meetings about this were held? when? how were they publicized? what were the results (minutes posted anywhere?) in his message to karen, tom said that one of the outcomes of the proposed hotel would be to introduce 'new (more responsible) neighbors' to the area.


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