I don't want to annoy the list by addressing your crap about me. But this
is important
"1. Never said Matt was their representative. Said Matt had asked them to
come. They didn't come. Didn't send a representative, either. Matt did
present their concerns at our meetings, but he was very disappointed
that they didn't come or appoint a representative."
Matt and no one else from FOCP invited park groups to "appoint a
representative" It's just a lie, Siano.
I respect Matt's belief that organizations like yours can be reformed and
community members should join. I respectfully disagree with him about this.
Matt invited individuals from volleyball to come as individuals and get
involved with FOCP. He was proud of the redesign plan and believes in it.
He is an honest hard working volunteer and I hate to anger the reasonable
members of FOCP by exposing the dirty laundry.
I and others warn the volleyball players and others about the FOCP. Had
Matt called the group together and invited the volleyball players to CHOOSE
a representative to attend the planning committee, I would be a liar. But I
am the one telling the truth. I do not blame individual FOCP Board members
like Matt for the failure to gain control of the organization. I argued with
him and some others about this but respect their beliefs. He knows my
belief about notification of the time, date, and location of FOCP meetings,
as by the way, IS REQUIRED ACCORDING TO FOCP BY-LAWS. He also knows my
opinion about the divisiveness of assuming its OK for FOCP to lie about
representatives for outside groups. He knows from his personal experience
how some individuals are silenced, even as Board members, by abusive
leaders.
The FOCP members passed a motion to correct this "representation" problem
several years ago and they believed that I would deliver a plan to them for
their inspection. You are being dishonest to suggest that any park groups
were ever encouraged to talk among themselves to choose a representative to
join the planning committee.
If you guys wanted to be inclusive, it is this simple:
"Hi Volleyball players. I'm Brian from the FOCP. We would like to invite
you to send a representative from your group to some planning meetings. We
are planning a redesign of our park and your opinions and ideas are
important to us. Please talk among yourselves and choose a representative
who can keep your group involved. You are an important group in this park
and we want you to participate. Some from your group may want to join the
FOCP because we want to do good things. But we want your group to send a
representative to our planning committee regardless of how many of your
members join FOCP"
It ain't rocket science, Siano! But it ain't the same as "give us $15
dollars, then go away and keep your damn mouths shut."
Inviting individuals to a dog and pony show where you promote a UCD agenda
is not at all the same as inviting a stakeholder group to participate in
planning. It is extremely dishonest to make this claim.
People understand that they are being invited to give you $15 and not
invited because their ideas or participation are welcome. Don't cry about
no one coming to your stupid meetings. When FOCP acts like a responsible
group, lots of people would get involved. You want people to give you money
then you treat them like crap.
Matt knows, the list knows, the community knows that your planning committee
is closed and exclusive. Don't try to peddle a UCD style dog and pony show
as an invitation to participate. Matt encouraged individuals to come to
PRESENTATIONS. He is not allowed to invite any stakeholder group to CHOOSE
a representative who will be treated respectfully and invited to the
planning group.
You're trying to put a spin on your dog and pony shows that is just plain
dishonest and unsupportable.
Matt, Again I am sorry that your name is being tossed about.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Siano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UC List" <UnivCity@list.purple.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [UC] civic associations and representatives
Glenn wrote:
Matt your name has been used on the public listserv. I am sending you
this cc as a courtesy.
"As for the volleyball players, yes, they _were_ asked to send
representatives. Matt Grubel, who's a volleyball player, invited them to
our meetings many times. They never came. Gina came to a general
membership meeting to suggest a permanent court installation, and we've
been discussing this within the Board and PlanCom. Once again, Glenn's
lying. Maybe he's ticked that the volleyballers didn't pick him to be
their rep?"
Matt does not claim that he ever asked the volleyball group to be "their
representative." I know that others have been making these claims and
calling him a representative. You Siano, have now publicly involved Matt
with your lies. I asked Matt directly if he ever claimed to be "the
representative" of volleyball. His answer was no!
It's a waste of time to refute all of Glen's ravings in detail-- and yes,
they are _ravings-, utterly divorced from reality, and entirely products
of Glenn's need to present himself as a put-upon "activist."
But:
1. Never said Matt was their representative. Said Matt had asked them to
come. They didn't come. Didn't send a representative, either. Matt did
present their concerns at our meetings, but he was very disappointed that
they didn't come or appoint a representative.
2. It's revealing that while Glenn portrays himself as Mr. Volleyball,
they didn't ask him to be their representative.
3. Glenn never recruited me for the Festival: I helped out because I liked
the Festivals. Note how he has to believe that he's the source of all
that's good and fine in the world.
4. Tony never put me in charge of any dealings with the Festival. He
always dealt with Glenn directly.
5. Glenn no more owns the festivals than I do; they've been going on for
thirty years or more, and while Glenn would love to think of himself as
the festivals' heart and soul, the fact is that he's just one of many
organizers over the years.
I told the list this story as it occured in 2004 when Mr. West convinced
a Dept of Rec. employee to break a contract with me for the use of the
city's mobile stage. Siano at his side. It's an ugly story to have to
tell about one's neighbors. Nevertheless, it is an important story to be
told.
6. I've told the story before. Tony didn't try to have any contracts
broken. In fact, Glenn failed to take responsibility for the stage, and
tried to break an agreement he'd had with the FoCP and Rec. Ever since,
he's been peddling this story about how he'd heroically prevented Tony and
I from taking over the Festival. Ain't true, never was true, and no matter
how often Glenn resurrects it, it never will be true.
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