I've had Bravo Premier, a Medicare Advantage plan, for the last year and I
have been satisfied, until I got the brochure with information about the
changes for 2010: They almost double the rate, increased many co-pays by 25%
(and some by 100%) and most significantly, they 'forgot' to include in the
brochure the minor fact that they have eliminated the $4,000 limit on
out-of-pocket expenses, which functioned as catastrophic insurance.  I have
been shopping for alternatives for a while but I don't seem to find anything
better at an affordable price.  And I am not allowed to sign up for two
plans, one that covers regular medical expenses and a second one with a very
large deductible and low premium that would cover all expenses after I reach
a predetermined out-of-pocket expense level.  Not surprising, considering
that the insurance companies wrote the Medicare bill and Congress just
rubber stamped it.

Gerardo Razumney

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 4:13 PM, missthin <misst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Al
>
> I saw that and was like, hmm, interesting.  Could be where I end up as I
> know at some point my wonderful GP will be retiring (he's older himself)!
> In theory it sounds like a good idea.  The ifs for me would be: would I have
> the same doctor (GP?) all the time or would I have to see whoever was
> available and hope they've read my med recs and are up to date on what my
> issues are; what exactly will this Center offer as far as testing, test
> results, turnaround time, etc.  All those pesky little things that when
> you're sick or injured you need and have a right to know asap.
>
> Found these links:
>
>
> https://bravo.destinationrx.com/plancompare/consumer/type1/2010/home/home.aspx
> http://www.mybravohealth.com/PDP/
> http://www.bravohealth.com/
>
> In the last link, there is talk of a Bravo Health Advanced Care Center:
>
> "Opening in early 2010, the Bravo Health Advanced Care Center will offer
> patients enhanced health care services in one convenient and comfortable
> location. Serving Bravo Health members exclusively in North Philadelphia,
> the Center will be an innovative, free-standing outpatient facility equipped
> to deliver extended treatment services.
>
> Featuring in-suite radiology, laboratory, observation, and monitoring, the
> Center will be staffed by physicians who are Board Certified in Internal
> Medicine, with significant experience in the management of chronic
> conditions in the Medicare population, as well as Board Certified physicians
> skilled in tertiary care."
>
> There's nothing about the Center that's supposed to be opening on Walnut
> St. near us. so this may be something that is going to take some time to get
> underway and sounds like it'll have to wait until the North Philly Center is
> up and running.
>
> Then I found this link!  http://www.mybravohealth.com/ProviderDirectory/
> Cound not find my current GP which is weird because I swear the man accepts
> every insurance under the sun.
>
> This company looks to be pretty much medicare-based supplemental insurance,
> prescription only and HMOs with and without prescription coverage.   The
> last link, the Provider Directory search? asks for either PPO or HMO, but I
> haven't found anything else Bravo with PPO info.  Would just be curious what
> theirs is about, if it's medicare-based only, costs, etc.
>
> Cost-wise, not bad at all for the HMO - it seems at least.  Now what
> doctors will accept this, what all the co-pays are, if you have to use these
> "Care Centers" I don't know.  Either I'm really brain dead today or the
> information is kind of lacking.  So I read what I could with mixed feelings.
>
> Wendy
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Glenn moyer <glen...@earthlink.net>wrote:
>
>> "I don't know much about Bravo, but I understand they are going to put a
>> walk-in clinic in for former Rite-Aid store at 43rd & Walnut. This sounds
>> like something more than a primary care physician's office but less than a
>> hospital -- for routine tests."
>>
>> Al,
>>
>> I also know nothing about Bravo.  But this model for delivery of care is
>> something that deserves a serious look if America ever moves beyond the
>> disaster we have now.  There is a huge hole in the broken delivery system.
>> People with expensive insurance still can't find open appointments at
>> primary care clinics. If you have a sinus infection and call random doctors,
>> you will be told that you have to wait at least a month before an intake
>> physical.  A vast majority of minor health needs go untreated when people
>> need a place to walk into and get a simple, easily diagnosed, treatment.
>> It's cost efficient, reduces unnecessary suffering, and is a benefit for a
>> productive society.
>>
>> Since managed care was introduced in the 1990's, our broken health care
>> system turned to a disaster.  We have a tremendous shortage of primary care
>> medical professionals, because specialists make more than twice the money as
>> primary care professionals.
>>
>> We need stimulus spending that helps society, like scholarships for all
>> qualified candidates to go to expanded medical schools for primary care.
>> The great medical successes in the very poor country, Cuba, should be
>> studied.
>>
>> Thanks for the tip,
>> Glenn
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: krf...@aol.com
>> Sent: Dec 23, 2009 9:36 AM
>> To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
>> Subject: [UC] Bravo health care
>>
>>  Someone mentioned Bravo health care to me in a private response to my
>> giving my expecience changing from Keystone 65 to Aetna for Medicare
>> Advantage.
>>
>> I don't know much about Bravo, but I understand they are going to put a
>> walk-in clinic in for former Rite-Aid store at 43rd & Walnut. This sounds
>> like something more than a primary care physician's office but less than a
>> hospital -- for routine tests.
>>
>> Considering the location (and the parking lot!), it might be worth
>> checking.
>>
>> If anybody does, please report back to the rest of us.
>>
>> Alan Krigman
>> KRF Management, ICON/Information Concepts Inc
>> 211 S 45th St, Philadelphia PA 19104-2918
>> 215-349-6500, fax 215-349-6502
>> krf...@aol.com or al.krig...@krf.icodat.com
>>
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