Nachmias writes: "I would contact University City District... and maybe
they have more pull with the police."
Darco,
You and everyone else should be informed that Beau is often off leash
too. You should also know that in the past, leaders of civic
associations have regularly called for "leash enforcement" while their
own dogs were off leash. Many people don't understand that civic
association leaders and UCD cheerleaders have reason to believe that two
extremely different enforcement policies will give them special
privileges against draconian enforcement in this special district. And
they might be temporarily correct, like we saw with the bogus trash
tickets. (Frank was part of the UCD/FOCP Quality of Life Task Force with
me many years ago. Quite frankly, Frank should never be walking Beau
off leash, like Sam and I, but not because of a problem with Beau.)
The problem:
These zero tolerance "leash laws" will only destroy an important
subculture of our community and will not make anyone any safer from any
actual or manufactured problem! The well loved well trained dogs that
accompany their humans to play without a leash NEVER "kill and maim"
"dogs and children" BUT THEY WILL BE 99.9% OF THE VICTIMS OF LEASH
LAWS, AND ALL HEALTHY DOGS WILL THEN DISAPPEAR FROM THIS SHOPPING
DISTRICT. Our neighborhood cranks would be on the phone to the cops
daily until they were all gone. (Let's not buy into the bull; if Cy
killed, maimed, or just drew blood, the cops and legal system could have
and would have been used!)
The off leash dogs/humans deter aggressive dogs and are also known to be
the best deterrent to human on human crime anywhere near Clark Park.
Dogs enormously positive affects, upon the mental and physical health of
the entire community, are only beginning to be partially understood!
(e.g. The Clark Park dogs, like Sam, have often delivered much needed
mental health treatment to children of the anointed, as well as love for
the poor children.)
And these benefits from well socialized dogs will be completely
destroyed if healthy well trained dogs are the target of zero tolerance
leash laws. Zero tolerance leash laws are nothing more than another
"quality of life" weapon in the hands of aggressive humans!
If you follow verified reports, the truly aggressive or uncontrollable
dogs, who have attacked people or dogs, are walked with leashes. If you
see Sam or any other dog walking unleashed at the heel of a human, you
know that everyone is 100% safe and no middle class anointed bully will
physically attack anyone while we are present.
When the FOCP/UCD was calling for an end to "dogs killing and maiming
children," I asked for the reports and it turns out that these were ALL
lies and or severe hyperbole. Nationally, the vast majority of dog
bites are in the family home. People who turn dogs into attack animals
can and should be held accountable by appropriate laws and the people of
the dog subculture do self police against any nuisance dogs. Once again,
it is the well loved dogs who protect the community from leashed dogs
who might attack someone.
(Unless a dog is deliberately mistreated, it won't be truly dangerous.
The self policing that Linda described generally works with
inexperienced dog owners who cannot properly train a dog or if the puppy
was not properly socialized OFF leash around a wholesome dog culture
like Clark Park.) We should be thanking the lovely dogs (Beau included)
of this community rather than making their humans feel threatened!
Quality of life or gentrification laws are generally "crank laws" These
are made for angry middle class bullies who wish cheap methods to use
"enforcement" against those outside of their gangs! Drug laws and Stop
and Frisk were similarly designed around massive bullshit, to terrorize
poor and minority neighborhoods not make anyone safer.
Why has quality of life dropped so drastically during the era of
quality of life laws?
Glenn
On 8/8/2011 7:02 AM, Lalevic, Darco wrote:
In fact, other than fining the owner for having the dog off the leash,
I don't see anything that can be done.
If Beau doesn't have any wounds, then it wasn't an attack, it was the
other dog trying to be dominant.
If it was an attack, there would have been plenty of blood before you
could have separated the dogs.
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I would contact University City District... and maybe they have more
pull with the police. 215 243 0555
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On Aug 4, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Vivianne T. Nachmias wrote:
It is actually illegal to have dogs off leash in Phila, except in dog
runs which are fenced in.
City ordinance, but police are doubtless too busy.
Vivianne
On Aug 4, 2011, at 8:19 AM, Linda wrote:
*From: *Frank Innes <fin...@alum.drexel.edu
<mailto:fin...@alum.drexel.edu>>
*Date: *August 4, 2011 7:39:32 AM EDT
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*Subject: **[UCNeighbors] Dangerous Pit Bull in Clark Park*
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From my wife, Mary-
Our dog Beau was attacked by an unleashed white pit bull in Clark
Park this morning at around 6:30. Beau was leashed and the attack
was unprovoked. We were at least 30 feet away when the pit bull
named Cy or Sy came running toward us from the shuffleboard court,
sniffed Beau, then jumped on him. Vincent, the owner, said the dog
is "domineering." I pulled Cy off and the owner regained control.
Cy is female, white, not very large, maybe 30 pounds. Vincent is
about late 20's, thin, around 5'6", black. If you see them, be
careful.
I called 911 but the police didn't come. Beau seems to be fine but
my heart is still racing.
-Frank
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