So then... either you are not able or you just refuse to be on that list...?  
Either would be just as sad I suppose...  
Come to think of it I withdraw the question.  
If people are not willing to be fair to someone, or about them (like behind 
their back) it makes it damned near impossible to deal well with them...  
DOUBLE BIND!  

God and Brian willing, Brian will decide to play fair again, he says that you 
being attacked and him wanting to help you was what he went to Clark Park to 
prevent but then he decided you were to blame and eventually he took over.  

Maybe if we all were to see such matters in a better light, clearly, and with 
hope...?

You he and I are all intelligent.  Let us ALL try again!  I'm putting my 
intelligent shoulder to the wheel!

On Mar 20, 2012, at 12:53 AM, Glenn wrote:

> Brian Siano writes:
> 
> "I see absolutely no reason to let Glenn on this listserv. Because Kyle
> made a mere joke about pre-banning him, Glenn _threatened legal
> action_ to have the list shut down. As Kyle says, Glenn's attempt at
> censoring this list _worked,_, forcing its migration to Google Groups.
> Glenn maintains that he's the victim here. And Rich seems to think
> that we should be forced to accept this malignant clown on the list.
> 
> He is not entitled to appear on every list out there, especially ones
> where he clearly intends to be an angry, disruptive, insulting,
> mean-spirited source of lies and personal attacks."
> 
> 
> Wow Rick.  We haven't had this kind of mean spirited lies, group straw men 
> and personal attacks on the public list since Siano, Mikey V, and the others 
> concentrated on their segregated audience.  They spewed this venom on the 
> public list the same way.  But now, they don't have to worry because I can't 
> show the subscribers of UC Neighbors their true colors nor refute the 
> outright lies.
> 
> Thanks again for trying to be a voice of reason!  Reading your forwards 
> reminds me of the terrible effect these jackasses had on public discussions!  
> I couldn't have exposed their tactics better than they just did themselves.
> 
> Peace,
> Glenn 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/19/2012 11:33 PM, Richard Conrad wrote:
>> 
>> You had to use the term garbage?  This is like an all or nothing contest of 
>> good and bad and you are the hero keeping people safe from garbage?  I'm 
>> obnoxious; and you have said I don't learn and force things on 
>> people?????????   Even though truth for you is a tactic for winning!  You 
>> call someone who can't respond a "Malignant clown" but at least you are a 
>> perfect opposite now that you've said it.  What a hero!!  I know you'll tell 
>> me you don't give two shits what I think... but I wish you could express 
>> other than sheer emotional certitude about people because I have profound 
>> positive feelings for you and for Glenn as well.
>> 
>> On Mar 19, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Brian Siano wrote:
>> 
>>> On 3/19/12, Richard Conrad <rdcon...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> I'm sending this to the listserve and to Glenn who now can see that Kyle 
>>>> has
>>>> stated he CAN join the listserve and according to this email by Kyle he was
>>>> not pre-banned and can join the listserve if he wants to, which would mean 
>>>> I
>>>> would not ever have to consider forwarding any of his emails - and thus can
>>>> avoid Kyle's ire (as Kyle has used his power to censor me before and
>>>> expressed his request to me off line to NOT forward Glenn's things to the
>>>> listserve).  Thank you Kyle for your current level of patience and thank 
>>>> you
>>>> Glenn for your input, now everyone is encouraged by me to shake hands and
>>>> come out sharing, politely and responsibly!!
>>> I'd like to mention that the only time Glenn's ever been an issue on
>>> _this_ list is when Rich Conrad insisted on bringing Glenn's garbage
>>> over here. This was obnoxious behavior on Rich's part. I'd hoped that
>>> he'd learned that it's not his duty to force people to read Glenn
>>> Moyer's comments. Apparently that's not the case.
>>> 
>>> I see absolutely no reason to let Glenn on this listserv. Because Kyle
>>> made a mere joke about pre-banning him, Glenn _threatened legal
>>> action_ to have the list shut down. As Kyle says, Glenn's attempt at
>>> censoring this list _worked,_, forcing its migration to Google Groups.
>>> Glenn maintains that he's the victim here. And Rich seems to think
>>> that we should be forced to accept this malignant clown on the list.
>>> 
>>> He is not entitled to appear on every list out there, especially ones
>>> where he clearly intends to be an angry, disruptive, insulting,
>>> mean-spirited source of lies and personal attacks.
>>> 
>>> Glenn has never had any problems in posting to the univcity "purple"
>>> list. Nobody's preventing him from doing that. It still has hundreds
>>> of subscribers. Let him stay there.
>>> 
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